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* retrieving information about password  from MS Access front-end
@ 2005-06-12 21:12 =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zlatko_Mati=E6?= <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>
  2005-06-12 21:52 ` Re: retrieving information about password  from MS Tino Wildenhain <tino@wildenhain.de>
  2005-06-13 06:47 ` Re: [INTERFACES] retrieving information about password from MS Access front-end Volkan YAZICI <volkan.yazici@gmail.com>
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From: Zlatko Matić @ 2005-06-12 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org; pgsql-interfaces

How could I retrieve information about actual user password, if md5 method is set in pg_hba.conf ? 
I want to create VBA procedure that compares value in text box with actual password to determine if it is the same. As the password is encrypted (md5) I can't read it from pg_shaddow system table. How to retrieve decrypted value from pg_shaddow? Or at least, how to transfer value from text-box (MS Access) to Postgres so that Postgres can determine whether those two values are the same ?

Thanks in advance,

Zlatko

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* Re: retrieving information about password  from MS
  2005-06-12 21:12 retrieving information about password  from MS Access front-end =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zlatko_Mati=E6?= <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>
@ 2005-06-12 21:52 ` Tino Wildenhain <tino@wildenhain.de>
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From: Tino Wildenhain @ 2005-06-12 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zlatko Matić <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>; +Cc: Postgresql-General <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>; pgsql-interfaces

Am Sonntag, den 12.06.2005, 23:12 +0200 schrieb Zlatko Matić:
> How could I retrieve information about actual user password, if md5
> method is set in pg_hba.conf ? 
> I want to create VBA procedure that compares value in text box with
> actual password to determine if it is the same. As the password is
> encrypted (md5) I can't read it from pg_shaddow system table. How to
> retrieve decrypted value from pg_shaddow? Or at least, how to transfer
> value from text-box (MS Access) to Postgres so that Postgres can
> determine whether those two values are the same ?

You cant. md5 really is a hash, not encryption (there is no decryption)
You would just try to connect - postgres will tell you if the password
is wrong.






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* Re: [INTERFACES] retrieving information about password from MS Access front-end
  2005-06-12 21:12 retrieving information about password  from MS Access front-end =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zlatko_Mati=E6?= <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>
@ 2005-06-13 06:47 ` Volkan YAZICI <volkan.yazici@gmail.com>
  2005-06-13 12:34   ` Re: [INTERFACES] retrieving information about password from MS Access front-end =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zlatko_Mati=E6?= <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>
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From: Volkan YAZICI @ 2005-06-13 06:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zlatko Matić <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>; +Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org; pgsql-interfaces

Hi,

On 6/13/05, Zlatko Matić <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr> wrote:
> I want to create VBA procedure that compares value in text box with actual
> password to determine if it is the same. As the password is encrypted (md5)
> I can't read it from pg_shaddow system table. How to retrieve decrypted
> value from pg_shaddow?

It's (practically) impossible to decrypt a MD5 hashed password.

> Or at least, how to transfer value from text-box (MS Access) to Postgres
> so that Postgres can determine whether those two values
> are the same ?

You need to MD5 hash the input passsword and compare hashed input
password with the one in pg_shadow. For instance:

-- $1 for password input.
SELECT usernm FROM recs WHERE passwd = md5($1)

Furthermore, it'll bring some potential security problems to be able
to access pg_shadow which requires db admin permissions.

Regards.


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* Re: [INTERFACES] retrieving information about password from MS Access front-end
  2005-06-12 21:12 retrieving information about password  from MS Access front-end =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zlatko_Mati=E6?= <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>
  2005-06-13 06:47 ` Re: [INTERFACES] retrieving information about password from MS Access front-end Volkan YAZICI <volkan.yazici@gmail.com>
@ 2005-06-13 12:34   ` =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zlatko_Mati=E6?= <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>
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From: Zlatko Matić @ 2005-06-13 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Volkan YAZICI <volkan.yazici@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org; pgsql-interfaces

Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volkan YAZICI" <volkan.yazici@gmail.com>
To: "Zlatko Matić" <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr>
Cc: <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>; <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [INTERFACES] retrieving information about password 
from MS Access front-end


> Hi,
>
> On 6/13/05, Zlatko Matić <zlatko.matic1@sb.t-com.hr> wrote:
>> I want to create VBA procedure that compares value in text box with 
>> actual
>> password to determine if it is the same. As the password is encrypted 
>> (md5)
>> I can't read it from pg_shaddow system table. How to retrieve decrypted
>> value from pg_shaddow?
>
> It's (practically) impossible to decrypt a MD5 hashed password.
>
>> Or at least, how to transfer value from text-box (MS Access) to Postgres
>> so that Postgres can determine whether those two values
>> are the same ?
>
> You need to MD5 hash the input passsword and compare hashed input
> password with the one in pg_shadow. For instance:
>
> -- $1 for password input.
> SELECT usernm FROM recs WHERE passwd = md5($1)
>
> Furthermore, it'll bring some potential security problems to be able
> to access pg_shadow which requires db admin permissions.
>
> Regards.
>
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