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* Macintosh client
@ 2001-01-06 16:40 Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 17:14 ` Re: Macintosh client Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2001-01-08 14:32 ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Brett W. McCoy @ 2001-01-06 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

Are there any clients for the Macintosh that will work with PostgreSQL?  I
have Postgres running on a Linux server on my network, and I have a user
with a Mac who needs access to the database.

-- Brett
                                     http://www.chapelperilous.net/~bmccoy/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
No discipline is ever requisite to force attendance upon lectures which are
really worth the attending.
		-- Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations"




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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
@ 2001-01-06 17:14 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2001-01-06 17:38   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2001-01-06 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>; +Cc: pgsql-interfaces

"Brett W. McCoy" <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net> writes:
> Are there any clients for the Macintosh that will work with
> PostgreSQL?

I seem to recall that pgaccess has an option to use an all-Tcl interface
layer instead of libpgtcl/libpq.  That would make it all Tcl and thus
in theory easily portable to the Mac.  Check the list archives for more
discussion --- I know this question has been asked before.

			regards, tom lane



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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 17:14 ` Re: Macintosh client Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2001-01-06 17:38   ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 19:42     ` Re: Macintosh client Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Brett W. McCoy @ 2001-01-06 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: pgsql-interfaces

On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Tom Lane wrote:

> I seem to recall that pgaccess has an option to use an all-Tcl interface
> layer instead of libpgtcl/libpq.  That would make it all Tcl and thus
> in theory easily portable to the Mac.  Check the list archives for more
> discussion --- I know this question has been asked before.

I tried the archives, but the search engine bombed out on me. :-(

I'll keep looking around.

-- Brett
                                     http://www.chapelperilous.net/~bmccoy/
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You were s'posed to laugh!




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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 17:14 ` Re: Macintosh client Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2001-01-06 17:38   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
@ 2001-01-06 19:42     ` Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
  2001-01-06 21:34       ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-07 02:35       ` Re: Macintosh client Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Mike Mascari @ 2001-01-06 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>; +Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; pgsql-interfaces

"Brett W. McCoy" wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Tom Lane wrote:
> 
> > I seem to recall that pgaccess has an option to use an all-Tcl interface
> > layer instead of libpgtcl/libpq.  That would make it all Tcl and thus
> > in theory easily portable to the Mac.  Check the list archives for more
> > discussion --- I know this question has been asked before.
> 
> I tried the archives, but the search engine bombed out on me. :-(
> 
> I'll keep looking around.
> 
> -- Brett

BTW, in my search for the state of libpq thread-awareness, I
also first tried the archives at www.postgresql.org. And
after a search of:

libpq thread safe

and a wait of 10 minutes, I finally gave up. It seems to me
that the implementation of the search engine does not shed a
very flattering light on the capabilities of PostgreSQL,
when, at PostgreSQL's own website, a simple search criteria
cannot return results within a reasonable amount of time.
PostgreSQL has a (now largely false, I believe) reputation
for being slow compared to its competition. All the
UDM-based search does is serve to reinforce this now
incorrect stereotype.

Mike Mascari



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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 17:14 ` Re: Macintosh client Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2001-01-06 17:38   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 19:42     ` Re: Macintosh client Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
@ 2001-01-06 21:34       ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Brett W. McCoy @ 2001-01-06 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>; +Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; pgsql-interfaces

On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Mike Mascari wrote:

> BTW, in my search for the state of libpq thread-awareness, I
> also first tried the archives at www.postgresql.org. And
> after a search of:

What happened with my search was that it came back saying that search.mpl
could not be found (is this a Mason component?).  This happened on a
mirror site as well.

-- Brett
                                     http://www.chapelperilous.net/~bmccoy/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Some people say a front-engine car handles best.  Some people say a
rear-engine car handles best.  I say a rented car handles best.
		-- P.J. O'Rourke




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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 17:14 ` Re: Macintosh client Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2001-01-06 17:38   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-06 19:42     ` Re: Macintosh client Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
@ 2001-01-07 02:35       ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2001-01-07 02:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>; +Cc: Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>; pgsql-interfaces

Mike Mascari writes:

> BTW, in my search for the state of libpq thread-awareness, I
> also first tried the archives at www.postgresql.org. And
> after a search of:
>
> libpq thread safe
>
> and a wait of 10 minutes, I finally gave up. It seems to me
> that the implementation of the search engine does not shed a
> very flattering light on the capabilities of PostgreSQL,

The mailing lists are also archived at www.geocrawler.com and the search
there works like a charm.  And I hear it runs on PostgreSQL.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut      peter_e@gmx.net       http://yi.org/peter-e/




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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
@ 2001-01-08 14:32 ` Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-08 17:43   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Takehiko Abe @ 2001-01-08 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

Brett W. McCoy wrote:

> Are there any clients for the Macintosh that will work with PostgreSQL?

How about telnet + psql?

regards,
abe



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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-08 14:32 ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
@ 2001-01-08 17:43   ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-09 02:59     ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Brett W. McCoy @ 2001-01-08 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>; +Cc: pgsql-interfaces

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Takehiko Abe wrote:

> Brett W. McCoy wrote:
>
> > Are there any clients for the Macintosh that will work with PostgreSQL?
>
> How about telnet + psql?

That technically wouldn't be a Macintosh client.

-- Brett
                                     http://www.chapelperilous.net/~bmccoy/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I just had my entire INTESTINAL TRACT coated with TEFLON!




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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-08 14:32 ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-08 17:43   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
@ 2001-01-09 02:59     ` Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-09 03:14       ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Takehiko Abe @ 2001-01-09 02:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

Brett W. McCoy wrote:

> > > Are there any clients for the Macintosh that will work with
> > > PostgreSQL?
> >
> > How about telnet + psql?
> 
> That technically wouldn't be a Macintosh client.
> 

No. but does that matter?

regards,
abe



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* Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-08 14:32 ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-08 17:43   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-09 02:59     ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
@ 2001-01-09 03:14       ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-09 03:20         ` Re: Re: Macintosh client Marc Rassbach <marc@milestonerdl.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Brett W. McCoy @ 2001-01-09 03:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>; +Cc: pgsql-interfaces

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Takehiko Abe wrote:

> > > > Are there any clients for the Macintosh that will work with
> > > > PostgreSQL?
> > >
> > > How about telnet + psql?
> >
> > That technically wouldn't be a Macintosh client.
> >
>
> No. but does that matter?

Yes, because the user in question isn't an SQL guru or a Linux guru or
anything like that, but a Mac user who is used to clicking on widgets and
the like (she's also very familiar with MS-Access, but we don't have a
Windows machine available).  I was looking for something like PgAccess, so
the user could export data to a local file for, say, a mail merge in a
word processing document.  I ended up having to hand code a web interface
ultimately in Perl.

-- Brett
                                     http://www.chapelperilous.net/~bmccoy/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is no sincerer love than the love of food.
		-- George Bernard Shaw




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* Re: Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-08 14:32 ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-08 17:43   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-09 02:59     ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-09 03:14       ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
@ 2001-01-09 03:20         ` Marc Rassbach <marc@milestonerdl.com>
  2001-01-09 03:31           ` Re: Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Marc Rassbach @ 2001-01-09 03:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>; +Cc: Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>; pgsql-interfaces



On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Brett W. McCoy wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Takehiko Abe wrote:
> 
> > > > > Are there any clients for the Macintosh that will work with
> > > > > PostgreSQL?
> > > >
> > > > How about telnet + psql?
> > >
> > > That technically wouldn't be a Macintosh client.
> > >
> >
> > No. but does that matter?
> 
> Yes, because the user in question isn't an SQL guru or a Linux guru or
> anything like that, but a Mac user who is used to clicking on widgets and
> the like (she's also very familiar with MS-Access, but we don't have a
> Windows machine available).  I was looking for something like PgAccess, so

Did you try pgaccess via the TCL interface in Netscape?

(The last company that had an interface to postgreSQL for the Mac was sold
off to the Openlink people and the product was discontinued...at tleast
from what I remember.  With MacOS X, an interface should be simpler)

> the user could export data to a local file for, say, a mail merge in a
> word processing document.  I ended up having to hand code a web interface
> ultimately in Perl.
> 
> -- Brett
>                                      http://www.chapelperilous.net/~bmccoy/
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> There is no sincerer love than the love of food.
> 		-- George Bernard Shaw
> 
> 




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* Re: Re: Macintosh client
  2001-01-06 16:40 Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-08 14:32 ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-08 17:43   ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-09 02:59     ` Re: Macintosh client Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>
  2001-01-09 03:14       ` Re: Macintosh client Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  2001-01-09 03:20         ` Re: Re: Macintosh client Marc Rassbach <marc@milestonerdl.com>
@ 2001-01-09 03:31           ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Brett W. McCoy @ 2001-01-09 03:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc Rassbach <marc@milestonerdl.com>; +Cc: Takehiko Abe <keke@mac.com>; pgsql-interfaces

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Marc Rassbach wrote:

> > Yes, because the user in question isn't an SQL guru or a Linux guru or
> > anything like that, but a Mac user who is used to clicking on widgets and
> > the like (she's also very familiar with MS-Access, but we don't have a
> > Windows machine available).  I was looking for something like PgAccess, so
>
> Did you try pgaccess via the TCL interface in Netscape?

No.  I tried using the all-TCL interface to pgaccess, but it gave me
problems, even under Linux.

-- Brett
                                     http://www.chapelperilous.net/~bmccoy/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the American dream is for Americans only, it will remain our dream
and never be our destiny.
		-- Ren'e de Visme Williamson




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2001-01-06 17:38   ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
2001-01-06 19:42     ` Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
2001-01-06 21:34       ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
2001-01-07 02:35       ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
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2001-01-09 03:14       ` Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net>
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