From: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
Message-Id: <199910112224.SAA09670@candle.pha.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Scripts (was Re: [HACKERS] Re: [INTERFACES] Next release is
	7.0(?))
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 Peter
	Eisentraut at "Oct 11, 1999 10:57:51 pm"
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:24:17 -0400 (EDT)
CC: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>,
	"Sergio A. Kessler" <ser@perio.unlp.edu.ar>,
	PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,
	PostgreSQL-interfaces <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
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> I think Thomas' primary problem was the underscore. (?)

OK.

> 
> I was going to say that I can take of that, since I was going to adjust
> the scripts to play well with the new psql anyway. (In particular, I just
> terminally removed the -a option, since it has gone unused for a while and
> might be a very popular option switch in the future. Switches are becoming
> scarce these days.)
> 
> I can offer the following plan (from my bin dir):
> 
> cleardbdir	--> (Remove. It's been a while.)

Good.

> createdb	--> pgcreatedb

Good.

> createlang	--> (In my excessively undereducated opinion, this should
>                      be removed. createdb and createuser I can see but
>                      this?)

Yes, remove.  What is that doing there.  Jan's plpgsql doesn't use it.  :-)

> createuser      --> pgcreateuser
> destroydb       --> pgdestroydb

Can I recommend pgdropdb?

> destroylang     --> (see above)
> destroyuser     --> pgdestroyuser

pgdropuser?

> ecpg
> initdb          --> pginitdb
> initlocation    --> pginitlocation
> ipcclean        --> pg_ipcclean
> (An underscore here to make it more complicated to type :)
> . . .

Not sure about that.

> vacuumdb	--> pgvacuumdb

OK.

> Alternatively, there could also be shorter commands, now that the
> association with the PostgreSQL installation is clearer:
> pgcrdb
> pgcruser
> pgdestdb
> pgdestuser
> pgvacuum

Too cryptic for me.

> This might remove the mnemonic association with the related SQL commands
> (which some might find desirable). Some might also go for a set like this:
> pguseradd
> pguserdel
> pgmkdb
> pgrmdb
> in association to *nix commands. (Some might find that a bad idea).

Doesn't grab me.

> 
> Furthermore I was thinking about a configure switch along the following
> lines:
> 
> --enable-scripts=old|new|both|none
> (defaults to new)

Too complicated.  Issue a warning if invoked with old args and remove
old link in 8.x.  You can test basename $0 and test to see how you were
invoked.


> since a while back there was some talk about removing the scripts
> altogether (which also died after Thomas protested, I think).

I like the scripts too.

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