From MAgrawal@coba.usf.edu Tue Feb 18 23:24:20 2003 X-Original-To: pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8A447580B for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from coba.coba.usf.edu (mail.coba.usf.edu [131.247.95.250]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C290475458 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.coba.usf.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1X5DXCW0>; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:25:15 -0500 Message-ID: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC020B@mail.coba.usf.edu> From: "Agrawal, Manish" To: "'pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org'" Cc: "'pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org'" Subject: PgAdmin problem Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:25:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D7A4.FBEAE980" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Archive-Number: 200302/115 X-Sequence-Number: 2191 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D7A4.FBEAE980 Content-Type: text/plain I have a peculiar problem with PgAdmin. I converted an Access database using pgMigration in pgadmin. I then created a view from within pgadmin. But though this view is available as an object in the pgsql database, I am unable to use it in an application. It also appears to be unavailable from psql. I have a link to a screenshot that shows what is happening. qMembers is the view, I can see it by using \d in psql but I cannot drop the view. http://faculty94100.coba.usf.edu:8081/view_problem.bmp Can anyone help me with this issue. This problem is preventing me from being able to use pgadmin to create views. Thanks Manish _________________________________ Manish Agrawal Asstt. Prof., Dept. of ISDS, Univ. of South Florida 4202 E. Fowler Ave., CIS 1040, Tampa, Fl 33620 - 7800 (813)-974-6716 (W) 974-6749 (FAX) magrawal@coba.usf.edu ______________________________________ My default office suite is Openoffice , the simple-to-use, opensource Office Suite for Windows, Linux and Macs. http://www.openoffice.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D7A4.FBEAE980 Content-Type: text/html

I have a peculiar problem with PgAdmin. I converted an Access database using pgMigration in pgadmin. I then created a view from within pgadmin.

 

But though this view is available as an object in the pgsql database, I am unable to use it in an application. It also appears to be unavailable from psql.

I have a link to a screenshot that shows what is happening. qMembers is the view, I can see it by using \d in psql but I cannot drop the view.

 

http://faculty94100.coba.usf.edu:8081/view_problem.bmp

 

Can anyone help me with this issue. This problem is preventing me from being able to use pgadmin to create views.

 

Thanks

Manish

_________________________________

Manish Agrawal

Asstt. Prof., Dept. of ISDS, Univ. of South Florida

4202 E. Fowler Ave., CIS 1040, Tampa, Fl 33620 - 7800

(813)-974-6716 (W) 974-6749 (FAX)

magrawal@coba.usf.edu

______________________________________

My default office suite is Openoffice, the simple-to-use, opensource Office Suite for Windows, Linux and Macs. http://www.openoffice.org

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D7A4.FBEAE980-- From s0lao@netscape.net Wed Feb 19 06:33:54 2003 X-Original-To: pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED78475458; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A724759AF; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from s0lao@netscape.net by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id 3.2c.7aa2ab6 (16215); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from netscape.net (mow-d24.webmail.aol.com [205.188.139.140]) by air-in01.mx.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILININ13-0219013341; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:33:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:33:41 -0500 From: s0lao@netscape.net (S. L.) To: MAgrawal@coba.usf.edu ("Agrawal, Manish"), pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org ("'pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org'" ) Cc: pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org ("'pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org'") Subject: Re: PgAdmin problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4D1D1F9E.06B44767.00013D13@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Archive-Number: 200302/117 X-Sequence-Number: 2193 Agrawal,=20 [...] > >But though this view is available as an object in the pgsql database, I am >unable to use it in an application. It also appears to be unavailable from >psql. > >I have a link to a screenshot that shows what is happening. qMembers is the >view, I can see it by using \d in psql but I cannot drop the view. > [...] This problem should be solved by qoutting (e.g. use "qMembers" instead simp= ly qMembers) where you cannot access the object. And this can happen with a= ny object -- usernames, tables. This is also documented -- see User's Guide / SQL Syntax / Identifiers and = Key Words. SLao __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels= .netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp=20 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.n= etscape.com/ From MAgrawal@coba.usf.edu Wed Feb 19 13:50:02 2003 X-Original-To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1285B475957 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:50:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from coba.coba.usf.edu (mail.coba.usf.edu [131.247.95.250]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80807475925 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:50:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.coba.usf.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1X5DXFHW>; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC020D@mail.coba.usf.edu> From: "Agrawal, Manish" To: 'Frankie Lam' Cc: "'pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org'" Subject: Re: PgAdmin problem Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:49:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Archive-Number: 200302/81 X-Sequence-Number: 3702 Thanks very much Frank, I will try what you suggested. 1. Will this also be true for column names. So, if I have a column named Last_Name, should I use SELECT "Last_Name" from "Members"; Do you then recommend that all tables and views be labeled in lowercase, so that all queries will be consistent. 2. On another note, is there a tool like the MS Access front end that lets you create constraints graphically by simply dragging and dropping columns between tables and views by simply dragging columns from the respective tables into the design window. 3. Also, updatable views would make Postgresql so much easier to use. The reason I ask is that if that were the case, PostgreSQL would be enormously popular beyond expectations. At the very least, introductory database courses in business schools could so easily use PostgreSQL instead of MS Access. Thanks Manish _________________________________ Manish Agrawal Asstt. Prof., Dept. of ISDS, Univ. of South Florida 4202 E. Fowler Ave., CIS 1040, Tampa, Fl 33620 - 7800 (813)-974-6716 (W) 974-6749 (FAX) magrawal@coba.usf.edu ______________________________________ My default office suite is Openoffice, the simple-to-use, opensource Office Suite for Windows, Linux and Macs. http://www.openoffice.org -----Original Message----- From: Frankie Lam [mailto:frankie@ucr.com.hk] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:52 PM To: Agrawal, Manish Subject: Re: [INTERFACES] PgAdmin problem Hello Manish, try 'DROP VIEW "qMembers"'. Unlike MySQL, Postgres fold all table and column names to lowercase except if the identifier is enclosed in quotes then the case is preserved. But don 't get it wrong that PostgreSQL is a case insensitive, "SELECT 'apple'= 'Apple'" will still return a false value. Thus it is possible to have three tables all named test but differing in their case(not suggest you to do so): "TEST" "Test" "test" can all exist at the same time. However to reference TEST or Test the identifier would need to be quoted (i.e. select * from "TEST"). All unquoted references are folded to lowercase. Regards, Frankie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Agrawal, Manish" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: [INTERFACES] PgAdmin problem > I have a peculiar problem with PgAdmin. I converted an Access database using > pgMigration in pgadmin. I then created a view from within pgadmin. > > > > But though this view is available as an object in the pgsql database, I am > unable to use it in an application. It also appears to be unavailable from > psql. > > I have a link to a screenshot that shows what is happening. qMembers is the > view, I can see it by using \d in psql but I cannot drop the view. > > > > http://faculty94100.coba.usf.edu:8081/view_problem.bmp > > > > > Can anyone help me with this issue. This problem is preventing me from being > able to use pgadmin to create views. > > > > Thanks > > Manish > > _________________________________ > > Manish > Agrawal > > Asstt. Prof., Dept. of ISDS, Univ. of South Florida > > 4202 E. Fowler Ave., CIS 1040, Tampa, Fl 33620 - 7800 > > (813)-974-6716 (W) 974-6749 (FAX) > > magrawal@coba.usf.edu > > ______________________________________ > > My default office suite is Openoffice , the > simple-to-use, opensource Office Suite for Windows, Linux and Macs. > http://www.openoffice.org > > > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster From nandrews@investsystems.co.uk Wed Feb 19 14:00:02 2003 X-Original-To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE12475D12 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.investsystems.co.uk (unknown [62.49.196.163]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C612F47580B for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33267 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 13:59:37 -0000 Received: from ponder.fairway2k.co.uk (nandrews@172.31.1.3) by hex.fairway2k.co.uk with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 13:59:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:59:36 +0000 (GMT) From: "Nigel J. Andrews" X-Sender: nandrews@ponder.fairway2k.co.uk To: "Agrawal, Manish" Cc: 'Frankie Lam' , "'pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org'" Subject: Re: PgAdmin problem In-Reply-To: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC020D@mail.coba.usf.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Archive-Number: 200302/82 X-Sequence-Number: 3703 On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Agrawal, Manish wrote: > 3. Also, updatable views would make Postgresql so much easier to use. > > The reason I ask is that if that were the case, PostgreSQL would be > enormously popular beyond expectations. At the very least, introductory > database courses in business schools could so easily use PostgreSQL instead > of MS Access. Views are updateable. You need to CREATE RULE blah AS ON UPDATE TO myview DO INSTEAD UPDATE mytable SET acol = NEW.acol for example. I think there are other issues with updateable views from MSAccess though. -- Nigel J. Andrews From charpent@bacbuc.dyndns.org Fri Feb 21 19:52:05 2003 X-Original-To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3871D475925 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from postgresql.org ([64.49.215.8]) by localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8:10024]) (amavisd-new) with SMTP id 48664-10 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.hub.org (news.hub.org [64.49.215.80]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC056475C85 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by news.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 8) id C2C3B43A857; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:33:23 -0500 (EST) From: Emmanuel Charpentier X-Newsgroups: comp.databases.postgresql.interfaces Subject: Re: PgAdmin problem Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:33:22 +0100 Organization: Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC020D@mail.coba.usf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.hub.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021226 Debian/1.2.1-9 X-Accept-Language: en In-Reply-To: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC020D@mail.coba.usf.edu> To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Archive-Number: 200302/95 X-Sequence-Number: 3716 Agrawal, Manish wrote: > 2. On another note, is there a tool like the MS Access front end that lets > you create constraints graphically by simply dragging and dropping columns > between tables and views by simply dragging columns from the respective > tables into the design window. You might be pleased wit OpenOffice : The 643 version, with the newer ("snapshot") ODBC drivers by Hiroshi Inoue is quite efficient at emulating the "query" interface of MS-Access. But keep in mind that MS-Access (and OO's) abilities are limited in this respect. For one thing, they won't accept subselects as column sources. If you need that, you have to define a view, and use it as a column source, or define your query/view in server-side SQL (you may fool around with cut and paste and many "query definition" windows. One thing that you won't be able to do with OOo is to define crosstabulation queries/views. Fortunately, the spreadsheet allows you to define "data pilot" zones that give you "almost the same" functionality, as far as you don't need crosstab *views*. I think that in 7.3, one may define a function writind dynamycally a big "left outer join" query and returning the corresponding set of rows, which would be a tad closer. But what's the point ? > 3. Also, updatable views would make Postgresql so much easier to use. You may do that, but yu'll have to define the update function by yourself. The reason is that determining what should be the "update" rule is intrinsically *hard* in the general case. See "The rule system" chapter and following in the Postgres server programming manual. The limited abilities of MS-Acces views (no subselects, for example) makes easier the building of a "reasonable" update rule. No such luck in Postgres ! > The reason I ask is that if that were the case, PostgreSQL would be > enormously popular beyond expectations. At the very least, introductory > database courses in business schools could so easily use PostgreSQL instead > of MS Access. Huh ? The only reasonable database systems course in a buisness school should be given with a M-16 ... ;-] More seriously : any "manager" I've seen trying to tackle a database problem ended up with his/her head so up his/her a*se that one had to call for a *thoracic* surgeon. Every time. The reason seems to be that they seem to be allergic to Codd's algebra (or any kind of algebra past elementary linear algebra used in accounting and elementary calculus). Even physicians, of all types, seem more suited to database design and use ... Hope this helps, Emmanuel Charpentier -- Emmanuel Charpentier From MAgrawal@coba.usf.edu Tue Feb 25 14:35:29 2003 X-Original-To: pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7368F4758F1; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from postgresql.org ([64.49.215.8]) by localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8:10024]) (amavisd-new) with SMTP id 28899-09; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:35:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from coba.coba.usf.edu (mail.coba.usf.edu [131.247.95.250]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA684758E6; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:35:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.coba.usf.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC0242@mail.coba.usf.edu> From: "Agrawal, Manish" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Pablo_P=E9rez=27?= Cc: "'pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org'" , "'pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org'" , pgsql-jdbc@postgresql.org Subject: Re: PgAdmin problem Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:35:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C2DCDB.1F2C9840"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Archive-Number: 200302/146 X-Sequence-Number: 2222 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C2DCDB.1F2C9840 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2DCDB.1F2C9840" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DCDB.1F2C9840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have to sign up for the mailing lists at www.postgreswl.org . Depending upon your use, the relevant lists are: =20 pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org : for general pgsql questions pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org : for pgadmin questions pgsql-jdbc@postgresql.org : for jdbc issues =20 Since you apparently got my email, I would think that you are already subscribed =20 Manish =20 _________________________________ Manish Agrawal Asstt. Prof., Dept. of ISDS, Univ. of South Florida 4202 E. Fowler Ave., CIS 1040, Tampa, Fl 33620 - 7800 (813)-974-6716 (W) 974-6749 (FAX) magrawal@coba.usf.edu =20 ______________________________________ I use Openoffice , the simple, free Office Suite for Windows/Linux/Macs that works with existing documents. http://www.openoffice.org =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Pablo P=E9rez [mailto:pabloperez@virzone.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:46 PM To: MAgrawal@coba.usf.edu Subject: Re: [CYGWIN] PgAdmin problem =20 Hi I would like to know how can I post a message or where can I do it. =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ IncrediMail= - El E-mail ha evolucionado finalmente - Haga clic aqu= =ED ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2DCDB.1F2C9840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You have to sign up for the mailing li= sts at www.postgreswl.org. Depending= upon your use, the relevant lists are:

 

pgsql-cygwin@postgresql.org= =A0=A0 : for general pgsql questions

pgsql-interfaces@postgresql= .org : for pgadmin questions

pgsql-jdbc@postgresql.org=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 : for jdbc issues

 

Since you apparently got my email, I w= ould think that you are already subscribed

 

Manish

 

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Ma= nish Agrawal

Asstt. Prof., Dept. of ISDS, <= /font>Univ. of South = Florida

4202 E. Fowler Ave., CIS 1040, Tampa, Fl 33620 - 7800

(813)-974-6716 (W) 974-6749 (FAX)

magrawal@coba.usf.edu

___________________= ___________________

I use Openoffice, the simple, free Office = Suite for Windows/Linux/Macs that works with existing documents. http://www.openoffice.org

 

-----Original Message-----
From:
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Sent:
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To: MAgrawal@coba.usf.edu
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Hi I would like to= know how can I post a message or where can I do it.

 

 

 

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