Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdAFD-002PBg-SA for pgsql-odbc@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 14:08:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdAFC-00Be4b-Fp for pgsql-odbc@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 14:07:58 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdAFC-00Be4J-3a for pgsql-odbc@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 14:07:57 +0000 Received: from pgintl.fastcrypt.com ([149.56.129.164]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdAF8-002h36-HY for pgsql-odbc@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 14:07:56 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-f54.google.com (mail-ed1-f54.google.com [209.85.208.54]) by pgintl.fastcrypt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1676620319 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ed1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-52bd9ddb741so2093843a12.0 for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 07:07:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywh5lvbrN5T0F9YQmc9+NqklfUpOXFOxcArriv6a3ZWuEJ96lTy fuviJIlLRj0nGAtB2LHNUbHiK87MjHBFI77VW8I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEtp5E6KVojrRWRZYZXOPrKls+nUR1G5j9TDY2xxr8agpgEeJXxyeb3/eHsknTH2BxKhkki51/5gS023L57m6Q= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c95a:0:b0:52a:841:bc58 with SMTP id h26-20020aa7c95a000000b0052a0841bc58mr7170359edt.30.1693836471876; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 07:07:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Cramer Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:07:33 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: ODBC driver maintenance: PostgreSQL 16 support and other open items To: Michael Paquier Cc: =?UTF-8?B?RGV2cmltIEfDvG5kw7x6?= , Hiroshi Saito , "Inoue,Hiroshi" , pgsql-odbc@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000036c27906048909ed" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --00000000000036c27906048909ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 4 Sept 2023 at 07:13, Dave Cramer wrote= : > > Dave Cramer > www.postgres.rocks > > > On Sun, 3 Sept 2023 at 19:44, Michael Paquier wrote= : > >> On Sat, Sep 02, 2023 at 11:19:54AM -0400, Dave Cramer wrote: >> > On Sat, 2 Sept 2023 at 06:27, Devrim G=C3=BCnd=C3=BCz wrote: >> >> Do you have a timeline for these? I can see that there are several >> >> people in the mailing list (not me) to step up the plate and help fix >> >> the issues. Would you consider moving project to Github, so that peop= le >> >> can send PR and you can merge them, if you don't have time to fix the= m >> >> all? >> > >> > I'd certainly be a proponent of moving to github and helping out >> maintain >> > this. >> >> That would be like a big change, still if that helps in keeping the >> project more healthy than it is now, why not. From what I can see, >> this driver's development has been let aside. >> > > This really isn't a big change. At least I don't see it that way. It make= s > it much easier to create pull requests which are significantly easier to > manage than patch files. > > >> >> Saito-san and Inoue-san have done a good job over the years spending >> cycles on maintaining that. The question is who could actually take >> care of the basic maintenance of the driver? I do have a little bit >> of experience with the ODBC code base in the history of the project in >> the 2015~2017 area with its core code and the regression tests as >> VMware was relying heavily on it back these days. So I could handle a >> few of the compatibility changes to keep the thing able to build and >> pass the tests, but my experience feels kind of limited. Or it's just >> that everybody has zero experience with it and I'm one with the most >> experience :) >> > > I had some experience looking at it, but would take some time to get up t= o > speed on this. Something I am willing to do. I'm sort of hoping this is > more of a maintenance thing than active development. I'm certainly willin= g > to pitch in. > > Dave > To be clear, I am offering to help in any way. However, only with the agreement of Saito-san and Inoue-san. Dave --00000000000036c27906048909ed Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Mon, 4 Sept 2023 at 07:13, Dave Cr= amer <davecramer@postgres.rocks> wrote:

D= ave Cramer
www.postgres.rocks


On Sun, 3 Sept= 2023 at 19:44, Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 02, 2023 at 11:19:54AM -04= 00, Dave Cramer wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Sept 2023 at 06:27, Devrim G=C3=BCnd=C3=BCz <devrim@gunduz.org> wrote:=
>> Do you have a timeline for these? I can see that there are several=
>> people in the mailing list (not me) to step up the plate and help = fix
>> the issues. Would you consider moving project to Github, so that p= eople
>> can send PR and you can merge them, if you don't have time to = fix them
>> all?
>
> I'd certainly be a proponent of moving to github and helping out m= aintain
> this.

That would be like a big change, still if that helps in keeping the
project more healthy than it is now, why not.=C2=A0 From what I can see, this driver's development has been let aside.

=
This really isn't a big change. At least I don't see it = that way. It makes it much easier to create pull requests which are signifi= cantly easier to manage than patch files.
=C2=A0

Saito-san and Inoue-san have done a good job over the years spending
cycles on maintaining that.=C2=A0 The question is who could actually take care of the basic maintenance of the driver?=C2=A0 I do have a little bit of experience with the ODBC code base in the history of the project in
the 2015~2017 area with its core code and the regression tests as
VMware was relying heavily on it back these days.=C2=A0 So I could handle a=
few of the compatibility changes to keep the thing able to build and
pass the tests, but my experience feels kind of limited.=C2=A0 Or it's = just
that everybody has zero experience with it and I'm one with the most experience :)

I had some experience loo= king at it, but would take some time to get up to speed on this. Something = I am willing to do. I'm sort of hoping this is more of a maintenance th= ing than active development. I'm certainly willing to pitch in.=C2=A0

Dave=C2=A0

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To be clear, I am offering to help in any way. However, only with= the agreement of Saito-san and Inoue-san.

Dave=C2= =A0
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