Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465566500CD; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:34:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97139-04; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:34:05 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from alexis.jtlnet.com (alexis.jtlnet.com [69.36.9.81]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A153D6500B8; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:34:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.10.103] (cpe-075-177-154-079.nc.res.rr.com [::ffff:75.177.154.79]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by alexis.jtlnet.com with esmtp; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:29:41 -0400 id 00097B58.4873A406.00004EA2 Message-ID: <4873A509.7050202@dunslane.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:34:01 -0400 From: Andrew Dunstan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.0.12) Gecko/20071019 Fedora/1.0.9-3.fc6 pango-text SeaMonkey/1.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus CC: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Tom Lane , Robert Treat , Garick Hamlin , pgsql-patches@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PATCHES] Solaris ident authentication using unix domain sockets References: <20080703165936.E80B312A5FFF@mx2.hub.org> <4870001C.6060402@dunslane.net> <23040.1215319905@sss.pgh.pa.us> <200807080935.33186.josh@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <200807080935.33186.josh@agliodbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200807/417 X-Sequence-Number: 120677 Josh Berkus wrote: > Tom, > > >> Indeed. If the Solaris folk feel that getupeercred() is insecure, >> they had better explain why their kernel is that broken. This is >> entirely unrelated to the known shortcomings of the "ident" IP >> protocol. >> > > The Solaris security & kernel folks do, actually. However, there's no > question that TRUST is inherently insecure, and that's what people are going > to use if they can't get IDENT to work. > > I think I'd pose a slightly different question from Tom. Do the Solaris devs think that their getupeercred() is more insecure than the more or less equivalent calls that we are doing on Linux and *BSD for example? I suspect they probably don't ;-) cheers andrew