X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D9ADB8C6 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:00:13 -0400 (AST) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17733-04 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:00:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from net2.micro-automation.com (net2.micro-automation.com [64.7.141.29]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 026AEDB77A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:00:10 -0400 (AST) Received: (qmail 15714 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2005 13:00:14 -0000 Received: from dcdsl.ebox.com (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (davec@64.7.143.116) by net2.micro-automation.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2005 13:00:14 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0F3B99E2-4575-42B8-8AAC-3FE4B231348C@fastcrypt.com> Cc: "Greg Stark" , "Joshua Marsh" , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dave Cramer Subject: Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:00:17 -0500 To: Luke Lonergan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200511/348 X-Sequence-Number: 15605 On 18-Nov-05, at 1:07 AM, Luke Lonergan wrote: > Greg, > > > On 11/17/05 9:17 PM, "Greg Stark" wrote: > >> Ok, a more productive point: it's not really the size of the >> database that >> controls whether you're I/O bound or CPU bound. It's the available >> I/O >> bandwidth versus your CPU speed. > > Postgres + Any x86 CPU from 2.4GHz up to Opteron 280 is CPU bound > after > 110MB/s of I/O. This is true of Postgres 7.4, 8.0 and 8.1. > > A $1,000 system with one CPU and two SATA disks in a software RAID0 > will > perform exactly the same as a $80,000 system with 8 dual core CPUs > and the > world's best SCSI RAID hardware on a large database for decision > support > (what the poster asked about). Now there's an interesting line drawn in the sand. I presume you have numbers to back this up ? This should draw some interesting posts. Dave > > Regards, > > - Luke > > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match >