X-Original-To: pgsql-general-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FBB529BF for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:11:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66866-06 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:11:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from koolancexeon.g2switchworks.com (mail.g2switchworks.com [63.87.162.25]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E768E52968 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:11:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: mail.g2switchworks.com 10.10.1.8 from 10.10.1.37 10.10.1.37 via HTTP with MS-WebStorage 6.5.6944 Received: from state.g2switchworks.com by mail.g2switchworks.com; 12 Jul 2005 15:11:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Projecting currentdb to more users From: Scott Marlowe To: Mark Rae Cc: "Mohan, Ross" , pgsql-general@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <20050712200609.GA24958@purplebat.com> References: <1121193674.8208.236.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <20050712200609.GA24958@purplebat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1121199095.8208.245.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:11:35 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.005 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200507/348 X-Sequence-Number: 80446 On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 15:06, Mark Rae wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:41:14PM -0500, Scott Marlowe wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 13:24, Mohan, Ross wrote: > > > From AMD's suit against Intel. Perhaps relevant to some PG/AMD issues. > > Well, this is, right now, just AMD's supposition about Intel's > > behaviour, I'm not sure one way or the other if Intel IS doing this. > > I think its more a case of AMD now having solid evidence to back > up the claims. > > This discovery, and that fact that you could get round it by > toggling some flags, was being discussed on various HPC mailing > lists around about the beginning of this year. Wow! That's pretty fascinating. So, is the evidence pretty overwhelming that this was not simple incompetence, but real malice? I could see either one being a cause of this issue, and wouldn't really be surprised by either one.