X-Original-To: pgsql-general-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48689FA3A6; Wed, 10 May 2006 12:10:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15982-03; Wed, 10 May 2006 12:10:01 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from exchange.g2switchworks.com (mail.g2switchworks.com [63.87.162.25]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C3A9FA2FA; Wed, 10 May 2006 12:10:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 10.10.1.37 ([10.10.1.37]) by exchange.g2switchworks.com ([10.10.1.2]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:10:00 +0000 Received: from state.g2switchworks.com by mail.g2switchworks.com; 10 May 2006 10:10:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Arguments Pro/Contra Software Raid From: Scott Marlowe To: Douglas McNaught Cc: Bruce Momjian , Steve Atkins , PostgreSQL General , "Pgsql-Performance ((E-mail))" In-Reply-To: <87r732ndat.fsf@suzuka.mcnaught.org> References: <200605100102.k4A12wa12853@candle.pha.pa.us> <1147272179.9755.18.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <87r732ndat.fsf@suzuka.mcnaught.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1147273799.9755.20.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:10:00 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200605/436 X-Sequence-Number: 95228 On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 09:51, Douglas McNaught wrote: > Scott Marlowe writes: > > > On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 20:02, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > >> You do if the controller thinks the data is already on the drives and > >> removes it from its cache. > > > > Bruce, re-read what I wrote. The escalades tell the drives to TURN OFF > > THEIR OWN CACHE. > > Some ATA drives would lie about that too IIRC. Hopefully they've > stopped doing it in the SATA era. Ugh. Now that would make for a particularly awful bit of firmware implementation. I'd think that if I found a SATA drive doing that I'd be likely to strike the manufacturer off of the list for possible future purchases...