Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7227565024D for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:56:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70056-03 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:56:04 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB3B650242 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:56:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9V1twfF015840; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:55:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Jeff Frost cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Index usage problem on 8.3.3 In-reply-to: References: <490A4EBE.9030804@frostconsultingllc.com> <13272.1225413116@sss.pgh.pa.us> <490A56C1.8020804@frostconsultingllc.com> <14519.1225415657@sss.pgh.pa.us> <490A5DCB.9060403@frostconsultingllc.com> <14766.1225416478@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Jeff Frost message dated "Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:49:21 -0700" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:55:58 -0400 Message-ID: <15839.1225418158@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: Tom Lane X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200810/143 X-Sequence-Number: 31724 Jeff Frost writes: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Any idea why I don't see it on 8.3.4? >> >> I think it's more likely some small difference in your test conditions >> than any real version-to-version difference. In particular I think the >> "still see" test might be influenced by the ages of transactions running >> concurrently. > Interesting. This is on a test server which has no other concurrent > transactions and it acts the same way after I stopped 8.3.4 and started up > 8.3.3 again as it did before stopping 8.3.3 to bring up 8.3.4. Hrmm..I'm not > sure that makes sense. So, I did the test with the sql script on 8.3.3, then > shut down 8.3.3, started up 8.3.4 on the same data dir, ran the test > successfully. Next I shut down 8.3.4 and started 8.3.3 and verified that the > behavior was still the same on 8.3.3. I wonder what else I might be doing > differently. Huh. That does sound like it's a version-to-version difference. There's nothing in the CVS log that seems related though. Are you willing to post your test case? regards, tom lane