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* ported application having performance issues
@ 2005-06-30 22:24 John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  2005-06-30 22:35 ` Re: ported application having performance issues Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2005-06-30 22:43 ` Re: ported application having performance issues Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: John Mendenhall @ 2005-06-30 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

pgsql performance gurus,

We ported an application from oracle to postgresql.
We are experiencing an approximately 50% performance
hit.  I am in the process of isolating the problem.
I have searched the internet (google) and tried various
things.  Only one thing seems to work.  I am trying to
find out if our solution is the only option, or if I
am doing something terribly wrong.

The original application runs on the following:

hw:
cpu0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi (upaid 0 impl 0x12 ver 0x12 clock 302 MHz)
mem = 393216K (0x18000000)

sw:
Solaris 5.6
Oracle 7.3.2.2.0
Apache 1.3.27
Perl 5.004_04
mod_perl 1.27
DBI 1.20
DBD::Oracle 1.12

The ported application runs on the following:

hw:
unix: [ID 389951 kern.info] mem = 262144K (0x10000000)
rootnex: [ID 466748 kern.info] root nexus = Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI (UltraSPARC-IIi 360MHz)

sw:
Solaris 5.9
PostgreSQL 7.4.6
Apache 1.3.33
Perl 5.8.6
mod_perl 1.29
DBI 1.46
DBD::Pg 1.40.1

Based on assistance from another list, we have
tried the following:

(1) Upgraded DBD::Pg to current version 1.43
(2) Ensured all tables are analyzed regularly
(3) Setting some memory options in postgresql.conf
(4) Located a handful of slow queries by setting
    log_min_duration_statement to 250.

Future options we will consider are:

(1) Attempting other option settings, like
    random_page_cost
(2) Upgrading db server to current version 8.0.3

With our handful of slow queries, we have done
several iterations of changes to determine what
will address the issues.

We have broken this down to the direction of a join
and setting the enable_seqscan to off.  The table
definitions are at the bottom of this e-mail.  There
is one large table (contacts) and one smaller table
(lead_requests).  The final SQL is as follows:

SELECT
 c.id AS contact_id,
 lr.id AS lead_request_id
FROM
 lead_requests lr
  JOIN contacts c ON (c.id = lr.contact_id)
WHERE
 c.partner_id IS NULL
ORDER BY
 contact_id

I ran this query against freshly vacuum analyzed tables.

The first run is as follows:

db=> explain analyze      SELECT
db->       c.id AS contact_id,
db->       lr.id AS lead_request_id
db->      FROM
db->       lead_requests lr
db->        JOIN contacts c ON (c.id = lr.contact_id)
db->      WHERE
db->       c.partner_id IS NULL
db->      ORDER BY
db->       contact_id
db-> ;
LOG:  duration: 4618.133 ms  statement: explain analyze      SELECT
      c.id AS contact_id,
      lr.id AS lead_request_id
     FROM
      lead_requests lr
       JOIN contacts c ON (c.id = lr.contact_id)
     WHERE
      c.partner_id IS NULL
     ORDER BY
      contact_id
                                                                          QUERY PLAN                                                                          
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Merge Join  (cost=4272.84..4520.82 rows=1230 width=21) (actual time=3998.771..4603.739 rows=699 loops=1)
   Merge Cond: ("outer".contact_id = "inner".id)
   ->  Index Scan using lead_requests_contact_id_idx on lead_requests lr  (cost=0.00..74.09 rows=1435 width=21) (actual time=0.070..22.431 rows=1430 loops=1)
   ->  Sort  (cost=4272.84..4352.28 rows=31775 width=11) (actual time=3998.554..4130.067 rows=32640 loops=1)
         Sort Key: c.id
         ->  Seq Scan on contacts c  (cost=0.00..1896.77 rows=31775 width=11) (actual time=0.040..326.135 rows=32501 loops=1)
               Filter: (partner_id IS NULL)
 Total runtime: 4611.323 ms
(8 rows)

As you can see, run time over 4 seconds.
Then, I set enable_seqscan = off.

db=> set enable_seqscan=off;
SET

Then I ran the exact same query:

db=> explain analyze      SELECT
db->       c.id AS contact_id,
db->       lr.id AS lead_request_id
db->      FROM
db->       lead_requests lr
db->        JOIN contacts c ON (c.id = lr.contact_id)
db->      WHERE
db->       c.partner_id IS NULL
db->      ORDER BY
db->       contact_id
db-> ;
LOG:  duration: 915.304 ms  statement: explain analyze      SELECT
      c.id AS contact_id,
      lr.id AS lead_request_id
     FROM
      lead_requests lr
       JOIN contacts c ON (c.id = lr.contact_id)
     WHERE
      c.partner_id IS NULL
     ORDER BY
      contact_id
                                                                          QUERY PLAN                                                                          
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Merge Join  (cost=0.00..4749.84 rows=1230 width=21) (actual time=0.213..901.315 rows=699 loops=1)
   Merge Cond: ("outer".contact_id = "inner".id)
   ->  Index Scan using lead_requests_contact_id_idx on lead_requests lr  (cost=0.00..74.09 rows=1435 width=21) (actual time=0.073..21.448 rows=1430 loops=1)
   ->  Index Scan using contacts_pkey on contacts c  (cost=0.00..4581.30 rows=31775 width=11) (actual time=0.038..524.217 rows=32640 loops=1)
         Filter: (partner_id IS NULL)
 Total runtime: 903.638 ms
(6 rows)

Under 1 second.  Excellent.

The contacts table has 30000+ records.
The lead_requests table has just around 1500 records.
I want the query to start with the join at the lead_requests
table since the number is so much smaller.

So, bottom line is this:
In order to get the performance to an acceptable level
(I can live with under 1 second, though less time would
be better), do I have to set enable_seqscan to off every
time I run this query?  Is there a better or more acceptable
way to handle this?

Thank you very much in advance for any pointers you can
provide.  And, if this is the wrong forum for this question,
please let me know and I'll ask it elsewhere.

JohnM





-----
table definitions
-----

-----
db=> \d contacts
                       Table "db.contacts"
            Column            |            Type             | Modifiers 
------------------------------+-----------------------------+-----------
 id                           | numeric(38,0)               | not null
 db_id                        | character varying(32)       | 
 firstname                    | character varying(64)       | 
 lastname                     | character varying(64)       | 
 company                      | character varying(128)      | 
 email                        | character varying(256)      | 
 phone                        | character varying(64)       | 
 address                      | character varying(128)      | 
 city                         | character varying(128)      | 
 state                        | character varying(32)       | 
 postalcode                   | character varying(16)       | 
 country                      | character varying(2)        | not null
 contact_info_modified        | character(1)                | 
 token_id                     | numeric(38,0)               | 
 status_id                    | numeric(38,0)               | 
 status_last_modified         | timestamp without time zone | 
 notes                        | character varying(2000)     | 
 demo_schedule                | timestamp without time zone | 
 partner_id                   | numeric(38,0)               | 
 prev_partner_id              | numeric(38,0)               | 
 prev_prev_partner_id         | numeric(38,0)               | 
 site_last_visited            | timestamp without time zone | 
 source_id                    | numeric(4,0)                | 
 demo_requested               | timestamp without time zone | 
 sourcebook_requested         | timestamp without time zone | 
 zip                          | numeric(8,0)                | 
 suffix                       | numeric(8,0)                | 
 feedback_request_sent        | timestamp without time zone | 
 products_sold                | character varying(512)      | 
 other_brand                  | character varying(512)      | 
 printsample_requested        | timestamp without time zone | 
 indoor_media_sample          | timestamp without time zone | 
 outdoor_media_sample         | timestamp without time zone | 
 printers_owned               | character varying(256)      | 
 business_type                | character varying(256)      | 
 printers_owned2              | character varying(256)      | 
 contact_quality_id           | numeric(38,0)               | 
 est_annual_value             | numeric(38,2)               | 
 likelyhood_of_closing        | numeric(38,0)               | 
 priority                     | numeric(38,0)               | 
 business_type_id             | numeric(38,0)               | 
 lead_last_modified           | timestamp without time zone | 
 lead_value                   | numeric(38,2)               | 
 channel_contact_flag         | character(1)                | 
 request_status_last_modified | timestamp without time zone | 
 master_key_number            | numeric(38,0)               | 
 master_key_token             | character varying(32)       | 
 current_media_cust           | character(1)                | 
 kodak_media_id               | numeric(38,0)               | 
 printer_sample_id            | numeric(38,0)               | 
 quantity_used_id             | numeric(38,0)               | 
 rip_used_id                  | numeric(38,0)               | 
 language_code                | character varying(3)        | 
 region_id                    | numeric(38,0)               | not null
 lead_deleted                 | timestamp without time zone | 
 last_request_set_status_id   | numeric(38,0)               | 
 address2                     | character varying(128)      | 
 media_usage_id               | numeric(38,0)               | 
Indexes:
    "contacts_pkey" primary key, btree (id)
    "contacts_partner_id_idx" btree (partner_id)
    "contacts_partner_id_null_idx" btree (partner_id) WHERE (partner_id IS NULL)
    "contacts_token_id_idx" btree (token_id)
Check constraints:
    "sys_c0050644" CHECK (country IS NOT NULL)
    "sys_c0050643" CHECK (id IS NOT NULL)
    "sys_c0050645" CHECK (region_id IS NOT NULL)
Triggers:
    insert_master_key BEFORE INSERT ON contacts FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE pg_fct_insert_master_key()
-----

-----
db=> \d lead_requests
                 Table "db.lead_requests"
        Column         |            Type             | Modifiers 
-----------------------+-----------------------------+-----------
 id                    | numeric(38,0)               | not null
 contact_id            | numeric(38,0)               | not null
 request_id            | numeric(38,0)               | not null
 date_requested        | timestamp without time zone | not null
 must_update_by        | timestamp without time zone | 
 date_satisfied        | timestamp without time zone | 
 status_id             | numeric(38,0)               | 
 request_scheduled     | timestamp without time zone | 
 session_log_id        | numeric(38,0)               | 
 notes                 | character varying(2000)     | 
 status_last_modified  | timestamp without time zone | 
 reminder_last_sent    | timestamp without time zone | 
 data                  | character varying(2000)     | 
 fulfillment_status_id | numeric(38,0)               | 
Indexes:
    "lead_requests_pkey" primary key, btree (id)
    "lead_requests_contact_id_idx" btree (contact_id)
    "lead_requests_request_id_idx" btree (request_id)
Check constraints:
    "sys_c0049877" CHECK (request_id IS NOT NULL)
    "sys_c0049876" CHECK (contact_id IS NOT NULL)
    "sys_c0049878" CHECK (date_requested IS NOT NULL)
-----


-- 
John Mendenhall
john@surfutopia.net
surf utopia
internet services



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* Re: ported application having performance issues
  2005-06-30 22:24 ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
@ 2005-06-30 22:35 ` Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2005-06-30 23:58   ` Re: ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2005-06-30 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>; +Cc: pgsql-performance


> Thank you very much in advance for any pointers you can
> provide.  And, if this is the wrong forum for this question,
> please let me know and I'll ask it elsewhere.

I think you may want to increase your statistics_target plus make sure 
you are running analyze. explain anaylze would do.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



> 
> JohnM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> table definitions
> -----
> 
> -----
> db=> \d contacts
>                        Table "db.contacts"
>             Column            |            Type             | Modifiers 
> ------------------------------+-----------------------------+-----------
>  id                           | numeric(38,0)               | not null
>  db_id                        | character varying(32)       | 
>  firstname                    | character varying(64)       | 
>  lastname                     | character varying(64)       | 
>  company                      | character varying(128)      | 
>  email                        | character varying(256)      | 
>  phone                        | character varying(64)       | 
>  address                      | character varying(128)      | 
>  city                         | character varying(128)      | 
>  state                        | character varying(32)       | 
>  postalcode                   | character varying(16)       | 
>  country                      | character varying(2)        | not null
>  contact_info_modified        | character(1)                | 
>  token_id                     | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  status_id                    | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  status_last_modified         | timestamp without time zone | 
>  notes                        | character varying(2000)     | 
>  demo_schedule                | timestamp without time zone | 
>  partner_id                   | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  prev_partner_id              | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  prev_prev_partner_id         | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  site_last_visited            | timestamp without time zone | 
>  source_id                    | numeric(4,0)                | 
>  demo_requested               | timestamp without time zone | 
>  sourcebook_requested         | timestamp without time zone | 
>  zip                          | numeric(8,0)                | 
>  suffix                       | numeric(8,0)                | 
>  feedback_request_sent        | timestamp without time zone | 
>  products_sold                | character varying(512)      | 
>  other_brand                  | character varying(512)      | 
>  printsample_requested        | timestamp without time zone | 
>  indoor_media_sample          | timestamp without time zone | 
>  outdoor_media_sample         | timestamp without time zone | 
>  printers_owned               | character varying(256)      | 
>  business_type                | character varying(256)      | 
>  printers_owned2              | character varying(256)      | 
>  contact_quality_id           | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  est_annual_value             | numeric(38,2)               | 
>  likelyhood_of_closing        | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  priority                     | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  business_type_id             | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  lead_last_modified           | timestamp without time zone | 
>  lead_value                   | numeric(38,2)               | 
>  channel_contact_flag         | character(1)                | 
>  request_status_last_modified | timestamp without time zone | 
>  master_key_number            | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  master_key_token             | character varying(32)       | 
>  current_media_cust           | character(1)                | 
>  kodak_media_id               | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  printer_sample_id            | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  quantity_used_id             | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  rip_used_id                  | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  language_code                | character varying(3)        | 
>  region_id                    | numeric(38,0)               | not null
>  lead_deleted                 | timestamp without time zone | 
>  last_request_set_status_id   | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  address2                     | character varying(128)      | 
>  media_usage_id               | numeric(38,0)               | 
> Indexes:
>     "contacts_pkey" primary key, btree (id)
>     "contacts_partner_id_idx" btree (partner_id)
>     "contacts_partner_id_null_idx" btree (partner_id) WHERE (partner_id IS NULL)
>     "contacts_token_id_idx" btree (token_id)
> Check constraints:
>     "sys_c0050644" CHECK (country IS NOT NULL)
>     "sys_c0050643" CHECK (id IS NOT NULL)
>     "sys_c0050645" CHECK (region_id IS NOT NULL)
> Triggers:
>     insert_master_key BEFORE INSERT ON contacts FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE pg_fct_insert_master_key()
> -----
> 
> -----
> db=> \d lead_requests
>                  Table "db.lead_requests"
>         Column         |            Type             | Modifiers 
> -----------------------+-----------------------------+-----------
>  id                    | numeric(38,0)               | not null
>  contact_id            | numeric(38,0)               | not null
>  request_id            | numeric(38,0)               | not null
>  date_requested        | timestamp without time zone | not null
>  must_update_by        | timestamp without time zone | 
>  date_satisfied        | timestamp without time zone | 
>  status_id             | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  request_scheduled     | timestamp without time zone | 
>  session_log_id        | numeric(38,0)               | 
>  notes                 | character varying(2000)     | 
>  status_last_modified  | timestamp without time zone | 
>  reminder_last_sent    | timestamp without time zone | 
>  data                  | character varying(2000)     | 
>  fulfillment_status_id | numeric(38,0)               | 
> Indexes:
>     "lead_requests_pkey" primary key, btree (id)
>     "lead_requests_contact_id_idx" btree (contact_id)
>     "lead_requests_request_id_idx" btree (request_id)
> Check constraints:
>     "sys_c0049877" CHECK (request_id IS NOT NULL)
>     "sys_c0049876" CHECK (contact_id IS NOT NULL)
>     "sys_c0049878" CHECK (date_requested IS NOT NULL)
> -----
> 
> 


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* Re: ported application having performance issues
  2005-06-30 22:24 ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  2005-06-30 22:35 ` Re: ported application having performance issues Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
@ 2005-06-30 23:58   ` John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  2005-07-01 08:57     ` Re: ported application having performance issues Dennis Bjorklund <db@zigo.dhs.org>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: John Mendenhall @ 2005-06-30 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

pgsql performance gurus,

I truly appreciate the suggestions provided.

I have tried each one separately to determine the
best fit.  I have included results for each suggestion.
I have also included my entire postgresql.conf file so
you can see our base configuration.
Each result is based on an in-session variable setting,
so it only affected the current session.

(1) Increase the default_statistics_target,
run vacuum, analyze on each table for each setting

The default setting is 10.

I tried the following settings, with the corresponding
results:

default_statistics_target =   10     time approximately 4500ms
default_statistics_target =  100     time approximately 3900ms
default_statistics_target =  500     time approximately 3900ms
default_statistics_target = 1000     time approximately 3900ms

So, this option does not quite get us there.

(2) Increase sort_mem value

The current setting for sort_mem is 2048.

sort_mem =  2048     time approximately 4500ms
sort_mem =  8192     time approximately 2750ms
sort_mem = 16384     time approximately 2650ms
sort_mem =  1024     time approximately 1000ms

Interesting to note...
When I set sort_mem to 1024, the plan started the join
with the lead_requests table and used the contacts index.
None of the above attempts used this.

(3) Decrease random_page_cost, increase effective_cache_size

The default setting for random_page_cost is 4.
Our setting for effective_cache_size is 2048.

random_page_cost = 4, effective_cache_size = 2048   time approximately 4500ms
random_page_cost = 3, effective_cache_size = 2048   time approximately 1050ms
random_page_cost = 3, effective_cache_size = 4096   time approximately 1025ms

The decrease of random_page_cost to 3 caused the plan
to work properly, using the lead_requests table as a
join starting point and using the contacts index.

*****

It appears we learned the following:

(a) For some reason, setting the sort_mem smaller than
our current setting caused things to work correctly.
(b) Lowering random_page_cost causes things to work
correctly.

This brings up the following questions:

 (i) What is the ideal configuration for this query
to work?
(ii) Will this ideal configuration work for all our
other queries, or is this specific to this query only?
(iii) Should I try additional variable changes, or
lower/raise the variables I have already changed even
more?

Thanks again for the suggestions provided.  And,
thanks in advance for any additional thoughts or
suggestions.

JohnM

::::::::::::::
postgresql.conf
::::::::::::::
-----
# -----------------------------
# PostgreSQL configuration file
# -----------------------------
#
# This file consists of lines of the form:
#
#   name = value
#
# (The '=' is optional.) White space may be used. Comments are introduced
# with '#' anywhere on a line. The complete list of option names and
# allowed values can be found in the PostgreSQL documentation. The
# commented-out settings shown in this file represent the default values.
#
# Any option can also be given as a command line switch to the
# postmaster, e.g. 'postmaster -c log_connections=on'. Some options
# can be changed at run-time with the 'SET' SQL command.
#
# This file is read on postmaster startup and when the postmaster
# receives a SIGHUP. If you edit the file on a running system, you have
# to SIGHUP the postmaster for the changes to take effect, or use
# "pg_ctl reload".


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# CONNECTIONS AND AUTHENTICATION
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Connection Settings -

tcpip_socket = false
max_connections = 128
        # note: increasing max_connections costs about 500 bytes of shared
        # memory per connection slot, in addition to costs from shared_buffers
        # and max_locks_per_transaction.
#superuser_reserved_connections = 2
#port = 5432
#unix_socket_directory = ''
#unix_socket_group = ''
#unix_socket_permissions = 0777 # octal
#virtual_host = ''              # what interface to listen on; defaults to any
#rendezvous_name = ''           # defaults to the computer name

# - Security & Authentication -

#authentication_timeout = 60    # 1-600, in seconds
#ssl = false
#password_encryption = true
#krb_server_keyfile = ''
#db_user_namespace = false


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# RESOURCE USAGE (except WAL)
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Memory -

shared_buffers = 4096           # min 16, at least max_connections*2, 8KB each
sort_mem = 2048                 # min 64, size in KB
#vacuum_mem = 8192              # min 1024, size in KB

# - Free Space Map -

#max_fsm_pages = 20000          # min max_fsm_relations*16, 6 bytes each
#max_fsm_relations = 1000       # min 100, ~50 bytes each

# - Kernel Resource Usage -

#max_files_per_process = 1000   # min 25
#preload_libraries = ''


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# WRITE AHEAD LOG
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Settings -

#fsync = true                   # turns forced synchronization on or off
#wal_sync_method = fsync        # the default varies across platforms:
                                # fsync, fdatasync, open_sync, or open_datasync
#wal_buffers = 8                # min 4, 8KB each

# - Checkpoints -

#checkpoint_segments = 3        # in logfile segments, min 1, 16MB each
#checkpoint_timeout = 300       # range 30-3600, in seconds
#checkpoint_warning = 30        # 0 is off, in seconds
#commit_delay = 0               # range 0-100000, in microseconds
#commit_siblings = 5            # range 1-1000


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# QUERY TUNING
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Planner Method Enabling -

#enable_hashagg = true
#enable_hashjoin = true
#enable_indexscan = true
#enable_mergejoin = true
#enable_nestloop = true
#enable_seqscan = true
#enable_sort = true
#enable_tidscan = true

# - Planner Cost Constants -

effective_cache_size = 2048     # typically 8KB each
#random_page_cost = 4           # units are one sequential page fetch cost
#cpu_tuple_cost = 0.01          # (same)
#cpu_index_tuple_cost = 0.001   # (same)
#cpu_operator_cost = 0.0025     # (same)

# - Genetic Query Optimizer -

#geqo = true
#geqo_threshold = 11
#geqo_effort = 1
#geqo_generations = 0
#geqo_pool_size = 0             # default based on tables in statement,
                                # range 128-1024
#geqo_selection_bias = 2.0      # range 1.5-2.0

# - Other Planner Options -

#default_statistics_target = 10 # range 1-1000
#from_collapse_limit = 8
#join_collapse_limit = 8        # 1 disables collapsing of explicit JOINs


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# ERROR REPORTING AND LOGGING
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Syslog -

syslog = 1                      # range 0-2; 0=stdout; 1=both; 2=syslog
syslog_facility = 'LOCAL0'
syslog_ident = 'postgres'

# - When to Log -

client_min_messages = log       # Values, in order of decreasing detail:
                                #   debug5, debug4, debug3, debug2, debug1,
                                #   log, info, notice, warning, error

log_min_messages = info         # Values, in order of decreasing detail:
                                #   debug5, debug4, debug3, debug2, debug1,
                                #   info, notice, warning, error, log, fatal,
                                #   panic

log_error_verbosity = verbose   # terse, default, or verbose messages

log_min_error_statement = info  # Values in order of increasing severity:
                                #   debug5, debug4, debug3, debug2, debug1,
                                #   info, notice, warning, error, panic(off)

log_min_duration_statement = 250        # Log all statements whose
                                        # execution time exceeds the value, in
                                        # milliseconds.  Zero prints all
                                        # queries.  Minus-one disables.

silent_mode = false             # DO NOT USE without Syslog!

# - What to Log -

#debug_print_parse = false
#debug_print_rewritten = false
#debug_print_plan = false
debug_pretty_print = true
log_connections = true
#log_duration = true
#log_pid = false
#log_statement = true
log_timestamp = true
#log_hostname = false
#log_source_port = false


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# RUNTIME STATISTICS
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Statistics Monitoring -

#log_parser_stats = false
#log_planner_stats = false
#log_executor_stats = false
#log_statement_stats = false

# - Query/Index Statistics Collector -

#stats_start_collector = true
#stats_command_string = false
#stats_block_level = false
#stats_row_level = false
#stats_reset_on_server_start = true


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# CLIENT CONNECTION DEFAULTS
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Statement Behavior -

#search_path = '$user,public'   # schema names
#check_function_bodies = true
#default_transaction_isolation = 'read committed'
#default_transaction_read_only = false
#statement_timeout = 0          # 0 is disabled, in milliseconds

# - Locale and Formatting -

#datestyle = 'iso, mdy'
#timezone = unknown             # actually, defaults to TZ environment setting
#australian_timezones = false
#extra_float_digits = 0         # min -15, max 2
#client_encoding = sql_ascii    # actually, defaults to database encoding

# These settings are initialized by initdb -- they may be changed
lc_messages = 'C'               # locale for system error message strings
lc_monetary = 'C'               # locale for monetary formatting
lc_numeric = 'C'                # locale for number formatting
lc_time = 'C'                   # locale for time formatting

# - Other Defaults -

#explain_pretty_print = true
#dynamic_library_path = '$libdir'
#max_expr_depth = 10000         # min 10


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# LOCK MANAGEMENT
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

#deadlock_timeout = 1000        # in milliseconds
#max_locks_per_transaction = 64 # min 10, ~260*max_connections bytes each


#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
# VERSION/PLATFORM COMPATIBILITY
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Previous Postgres Versions -

#add_missing_from = true
#regex_flavor = advanced        # advanced, extended, or basic
#sql_inheritance = true

# - Other Platforms & Clients -

#transform_null_equals = false
-----

-- 
John Mendenhall
john@surfutopia.net
surf utopia
internet services



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* Re: ported application having performance issues
  2005-06-30 22:24 ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  2005-06-30 22:35 ` Re: ported application having performance issues Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2005-06-30 23:58   ` Re: ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
@ 2005-07-01 08:57     ` Dennis Bjorklund <db@zigo.dhs.org>
  2005-07-02 00:52       ` Re: ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Dennis Bjorklund @ 2005-07-01 08:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, John Mendenhall wrote:

> Our setting for effective_cache_size is 2048.
> 
> random_page_cost = 4, effective_cache_size = 2048   time approximately 4500ms
> random_page_cost = 3, effective_cache_size = 2048   time approximately 1050ms
> random_page_cost = 3, effective_cache_size = 4096   time approximately 1025ms
> 
> The decrease of random_page_cost to 3 caused the plan
> to work properly, using the lead_requests table as a
> join starting point and using the contacts index.

The effective_cache_size still looks small. As a rule of tumb you might
want effective_cache_size to be something like 1/2 or 2/3 of your total
memory. I don't know how much you had, but effective_cache_size = 4096 is
only 32M.

shared_buffers and effective_cache_size is normally the two most important 
settings in my experience.

-- 
/Dennis Björklund




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* Re: ported application having performance issues
  2005-06-30 22:24 ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  2005-06-30 22:35 ` Re: ported application having performance issues Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2005-06-30 23:58   ` Re: ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  2005-07-01 08:57     ` Re: ported application having performance issues Dennis Bjorklund <db@zigo.dhs.org>
@ 2005-07-02 00:52       ` John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: John Mendenhall @ 2005-07-02 00:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dennis Bjorklund <db@zigo.dhs.org>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

Dennis,

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005, Dennis Bjorklund wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, John Mendenhall wrote:
> 
> > Our setting for effective_cache_size is 2048.
> > 
> > random_page_cost = 4, effective_cache_size = 2048   time approximately 4500ms
> > random_page_cost = 3, effective_cache_size = 2048   time approximately 1050ms
> > random_page_cost = 3, effective_cache_size = 4096   time approximately 1025ms
> 
> The effective_cache_size still looks small. As a rule of tumb you might
> want effective_cache_size to be something like 1/2 or 2/3 of your total
> memory. I don't know how much you had, but effective_cache_size = 4096 is
> only 32M.
> 
> shared_buffers and effective_cache_size is normally the two most important 
> settings in my experience.

I have increased the effective_cache_size to 16384 (128M).  I have kept
random_page_cost at 3 for now.  This appears to give me the performance
I need at this time.

In the future, we'll look at other methods of increasing the
performance.

Thank you all for all your suggestions.

JohnM

-- 
John Mendenhall
john@surfutopia.net
surf utopia
internet services



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* Re: ported application having performance issues
  2005-06-30 22:24 ported application having performance issues John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>
@ 2005-06-30 22:43 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2005-06-30 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

John Mendenhall <john@surfutopia.net> writes:
>  Merge Join  (cost=4272.84..4520.82 rows=1230 width=21) (actual time=3998.771..4603.739 rows=699 loops=1)
>    Merge Cond: ("outer".contact_id = "inner".id)
>    ->  Index Scan using lead_requests_contact_id_idx on lead_requests lr  (cost=0.00..74.09 rows=1435 width=21) (actual time=0.070..22.431 rows=1430 loops=1)
>    ->  Sort  (cost=4272.84..4352.28 rows=31775 width=11) (actual time=3998.554..4130.067 rows=32640 loops=1)
>          Sort Key: c.id
>          ->  Seq Scan on contacts c  (cost=0.00..1896.77 rows=31775 width=11) (actual time=0.040..326.135 rows=32501 loops=1)
>                Filter: (partner_id IS NULL)
>  Total runtime: 4611.323 ms

Hmm ... even on a SPARC, it doesn't seem like it should take 4 seconds
to sort 30000 rows.  You can certainly see that the planner is not
expecting that (it's estimating a sort cost comparable to the scan cost,
which if true would put this in the sub-second ballpark).

Does increasing sort_mem help?

Have you considered using some other datatype than "numeric" for your
keys?  Numeric may be fast on Oracle but it's not amazingly fast on
Postgres.  bigint would be better, if you don't really need 38 digits;
if you do, I'd be inclined to think about plain char or varchar keys.

			regards, tom lane



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