X-Original-To: pgsql-general-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E04529A1 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:32:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77817-04 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:32:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B614D52968 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:32:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [62.3.112.246] (helo=gweek.purplebat.com) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DsRQL-0002vw-So; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:32:13 +0000 Received: from mrae by gweek.purplebat.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DsRQL-0006YZ-00; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:32:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:32:13 +0100 To: Scott Marlowe Cc: "Mohan, Ross" , pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Projecting currentdb to more users Message-ID: <20050712203213.GB24958@purplebat.com> References: <1121193674.8208.236.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <20050712200609.GA24958@purplebat.com> <1121199095.8208.245.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121199095.8208.245.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Mark Rae X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [62.3.112.246] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.033 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200507/352 X-Sequence-Number: 80450 On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:11:35PM -0500, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 15:06, Mark Rae wrote: > > I think its more a case of AMD now having solid evidence to back > > up the claims. > > Wow! That's pretty fascinating. So, is the evidence pretty > overwhelming that this was not simple incompetence, but real malice? I suppose that depends on the exact nature of the 'check'. As far as I was aware it was more a case of 'I don't recognise this processor, so I'll do it the slow but safe way'. However from what AMD are claiming, it seems to be more of a 'Its an AMD processor so I'll be deliberately slow and buggy' Having said that, I have tried compiling PG with the intel compiler in the past, and haven't noticed any real difference. But in a database there isn't much scope for vectorization and pipelining compared with numerical code, which is where the Intel compiler makes the greatest difference. -Mark