X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26695288A for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:36:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39818-07 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:36:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server227.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.227]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E29752ACD for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:36:38 -0300 (ADT) X-EthosMedia-Virus-Scanned: no infections found Received: from [64.81.245.111] (account josh@agliodbs.com HELO temoku.sf.agliodbs.com) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 7743019; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:38:55 -0700 From: Josh Berkus Reply-To: josh@agliodbs.com Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: PG8 Tuning Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:39:47 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Michael Stone References: <1536.217.45.209.171.1123763001.squirrel@www.gradwell.com> <200508160912.32263.josh@agliodbs.com> <20050816173047.GC19080@mathom.us> In-Reply-To: <20050816173047.GC19080@mathom.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508171339.47399.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.049 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05] X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200508/213 X-Sequence-Number: 13960 Michael, > Well, you don't have to spend *quite* that much to get a decent storage > array. :) Yes, I'm just pointing out that it's only the extreme cases which are clear-cut. Middle cases are a lot harder to define. For example, we've found that on DBT2 running of a 14-drive JBOD, seperating off WAL boosts performance about 8% to 14%. On DBT3 (DSS) seperate WAL (and seperate tablespaces) helps considerably during data load,but not otherwise. So it all depends. > That's a different creature from > a data mining app that might really benefit from having additional > spindles to accelerate read performance from indices much larger than > RAM. Yes, although the data mining app benefits from the special xlog disk during ETL. So it's a tradeoff. > At any rate, this just underscores the need for testing a > particular workload on particular hardware Yes, absolutely. -- --Josh Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco