X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D649F931E for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:01:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68110-04-2 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:01:43 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from svr4.postgresql.org (svr4.postgresql.org [66.98.251.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FC69F9AFD for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:01:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from is.rice.edu (is.rice.edu [128.42.42.24]) by svr4.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252875B0775 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 18:01:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from scan2.mail.rice.edu (scan2.mail.rice.edu [128.42.59.161]) by is.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7921A4182B; Mon, 8 May 2006 13:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from is.rice.edu ([128.42.42.24]) by scan2.mail.rice.edu (scan2.mail.rice.edu [128.42.59.161]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26421-02; Mon, 8 May 2006 13:01:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: by is.rice.edu (Postfix, from userid 18612) id ACCD8418BB; Mon, 8 May 2006 13:01:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 13:01:36 -0500 From: Kenneth Marshall To: "Jim C. Nasby" Cc: Mark Lewis , Jeffrey Tenny , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: performance question (something to do w/ Message-ID: <20060508180136.GK1862@it.is.rice.edu> References: <445F7FF8.6070707@comcast.net> <1147110142.32369.7.camel@archimedes> <20060508175013.GY99570@pervasive.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060508175013.GY99570@pervasive.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-2.2.1 at scan2.mail.rice.edu X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200605/208 X-Sequence-Number: 18995 On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 12:50:13PM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:42:21AM -0700, Mark Lewis wrote: > > Doing a SELECT with a large list of variables inside an IN runs slowly > > on every database we've tested. We've tested mostly in Oracle and > > PostgreSQL, and both get very slow very quickly (actually Oracle refuses > > to process the query at all after it gets too many bind parameters). > > > > In our case, we have a (potentially quite large) set of external values > > that we want to look up in the database. We originally thought that > > doing a single select with a large IN clause was the way to go, but then > > we did some performance analysis on the optimal batch size (number of > > items to include per IN clause), and discovered that for most databases, > > the optimal batch size was 1. For PostgreSQL I think it was 2. > > > > The moral of the story is that you're probably better off running a > > bunch of small selects than in trying to optimize things with one > > gargantuan select. > > Ever experiment with loading the parameters into a temp table and > joining to that? > -- > Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com > Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 > vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- The DB use by the DSPAM software is very similar to your use case. The fastest queries are made using the PostgreSQL generate_series functionality to unwind the "IN *" to multiple single selects. Here is the lookup function that they use: create function lookup_tokens(integer,bigint[]) returns setof dspam_token_data language plpgsql stable as ' declare v_rec record; begin for v_rec in select * from dspam_token_data where uid=$1 and token in (select $2[i] from generate_series(array_lower($2,1), array_upper($2,1)) s(i)) loop return next v_rec; end loop; return; end;'; You should be able to try something similar for your workload. Ken Marshall