X-Original-To: pgsql-general-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248259FADD1; Thu, 11 May 2006 20:01:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02185-04; Thu, 11 May 2006 20:01:42 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from noel.decibel.org (noel.decibel.org [67.100.216.10]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6639D9FB0D1; Thu, 11 May 2006 20:01:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: by noel.decibel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3159856427; Thu, 11 May 2006 18:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: (hashcash-sendmail, from uid 1001); Thu, 11 May 2006 18:01:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 18:01:38 -0500 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: "Joshua D. Drake" Cc: Bruce Momjian , Vivek Khera , "Pgsql-Performance ((E-mail))" , PostgreSQL General Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Arguments Pro/Contra Software Raid Message-ID: <20060511230138.GB99570@pervasive.com> References: <4460DE97.9040001@commandprompt.com> <200605100059.k4A0xtK09977@candle.pha.pa.us> <20060511221928.GV99570@pervasive.com> <4463BCE7.6090202@commandprompt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4463BCE7.6090202@commandprompt.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Hashcash: 1:20:060511:jd@commandprompt.com::GKJ11tCUr8N1KrIF:00000000000000000 00000000000000000000000021cr X-Hashcash: 1:20:060511:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us::mWLI/Uk35PQWSHEn:000000000000000 0000000000000000000000003Epq X-Hashcash: 1:20:060511:vivek@khera.org::Wj561MFUbYC4DT2z:002wZM X-Hashcash: 1:20:060511:pgsql-performance@postgresql.org::87n/e+AYTzsnk5FE:00000 0000000000000000000000000Uv6 X-Hashcash: 1:20:060511:pgsql-general@postgresql.org::ylKJtvCUl7N23BPO:000000000 0000000000000000000000009Xgp X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200605/513 X-Sequence-Number: 95305 On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 03:38:31PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > >>You want an in-depth comparison of how a server disk drive is internally > >>better than a desktop drive: > >> > >> http://www.seagate.com/content/docs/pdf/whitepaper/D2c_More_than_Interface_ATA_vs_SCSI_042003.pdf > > > >BTW, someone (Western Digital?) is now offering SATA drives that carry > >the same MTBF/warranty/what-not as their SCSI drives. I can't remember > >if they actually claim that it's the same mechanisms just with a > >different controller on the drive... > > Well western digital and Seagate both carry 5 year warranties. Seagate I > believe does on almost all of there products. WD you have to pick the > right drive. I know that someone recently made a big PR push about how you could get 'server reliability' in some of their SATA drives, but maybe now everyone's starting to do it. I suspect the premium you can charge for it offsets the costs, provided that you switch all your production over rather than trying to segregate production lines. -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461