Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEADD9FA192 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:44:56 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35579-04 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:44:44 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBD99FA0EE for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:44:44 -0400 (AST) Received: from osgiliath.mathom.us ([71.246.251.8]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0J9R00AA5FWESGG0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:43:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osgiliath.mathom.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88176E7D3 for ; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from osgiliath.mathom.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (osgiliath.home.mathom.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Gy2TFhqg2efy for ; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by osgiliath.mathom.us (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB7BE709A5; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:22 -0500 From: Michael Stone Subject: Re: Bad iostat numbers In-reply-to: <33c6269f0612040937l276c5178naecac1983d355e29@mail.gmail.com> To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Mail-followup-to: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Message-id: <20061204174320.GX1622@mathom.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mathom.us X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 References: <33c6269f0612032317t9f0bc77n3ff791a5cd88fc80@mail.gmail.com> <1165249513.14565.329.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <33c6269f0612040937l276c5178naecac1983d355e29@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200612/52 X-Sequence-Number: 22108 On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Alex Turner wrote: >This discussion I think is important, as I think it would be useful for this >list to have a list of RAID cards that _do_ work well under Linux/BSD for >people as recommended hardware for Postgresql. So far, all I can recommend >is what I've found to be good, which is 3ware 9500 series cards with 10k >SATA drives. Throughput was great until you reached higher levels of RAID >10 (the bonnie++ mark I posted showed write speed is a bit slow). But that >doesn't solve the problem for SCSI. What cards in the SCSI arena solve the >problem optimally? Why should we settle for sub-optimal performance in SCSI >when there are a number of almost optimally performing cards in the SATA >world (Areca, 3Ware/AMCC, LSI). Well, one factor is to be more precise about what you're looking for; a HBA != RAID controller, and you may be comparing apples and oranges. (If you have an external array with an onboard controller you probably want a simple HBA rather than a RAID controller.) Mike Stone