Received: from localhost (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14DB9F9EED for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:10:45 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41441-01-2 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:10:34 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDD19FA2CA for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:10:35 -0400 (AST) Received: from osgiliath.mathom.us ([71.246.251.8]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JA400AOGLCGYSI0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:09:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osgiliath.mathom.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614CD6EA76 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from osgiliath.mathom.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (osgiliath.home.mathom.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1x0pPLkVwa1R for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by osgiliath.mathom.us (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B339170ABE; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:09:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:09:49 -0500 From: Michael Stone Subject: Re: New to PostgreSQL, performance considerations In-reply-to: To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Mail-followup-to: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Message-id: <20061211200947.GK16692@mathom.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mathom.us X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 References: <20061211021847.GE16692@mathom.us> <8a0c7af10612110305u305124b2v3d63491b5f57a86b@mail.gmail.com> <87u002mv49.fsf@wolfe.cbbrowne.com> <8a0c7af10612110531sbb019ck259fb16d131fdb50@mail.gmail.com> <60psaq5t94.fsf@dba2.int.libertyrms.com> <20061211173105.GH16692@mathom.us> <20061211184726.GI16692@mathom.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200612/262 X-Sequence-Number: 22318 On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 02:51:09PM -0500, Ron wrote: >Let's support getting definitive evidence. Since nobody opposed the concept of contrary evidence, I don't suppose you're fighting an uphill battle on that particular point. It's fine to get preachy about supporting intellectual curiosity, but do remember that it's a waste of everyone's (limited) time to give equal time to all theories. If someone comes to you with an idea for a perpetual motion machine your effort is probably better spent on something other than helping him build it, regardless of whether that somehow seems unfair. (Now if he brings a working model, that's a different story...) Heck, even building a bunch of non-working perpetual motion machines as a demonstration is a waste of time, because it's always easy to say "well, if you had just...". That's precisely why the person bringing the extraordinary claim is also expected to bring the proof, rather than expecting that everyone else prove the status quo. Mike Stone