Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2786A9FB5AF for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:46:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85314-01 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:46:02 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server227.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.227]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF5D9FB54D for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:46:02 -0300 (ADT) X-EthosMedia-Virus-Scanned: no infections found Received: from [64.81.245.111] (account josh@agliodbs.com HELO [192.168.1.27]) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 12017702; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:50:04 -0700 From: Josh Berkus Reply-To: josh@agliodbs.com Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Feature Request --- was: PostgreSQL Performance Tuning Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:46:17 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Dan Harris References: <20070427141127.cdac56fb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <46325CC7.2070400@drivefaster.net> In-Reply-To: <46325CC7.2070400@drivefaster.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704271746.17731.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200704/488 X-Sequence-Number: 24365 Dan, > Yes, this is the classic problem. =A0I'm not demanding anyone pick up the > ball and jump on this today, tomorrow, etc.. I just think it would be > good for those who *could* make a difference to keep those goals in mind > when they continue. =A0If you have the right mindset, this problem will > fix itself over time. Don't I wish. Autotuning is *hard*. It took Oracle 6 years. It took=20 Microsoft 3-4 years, and theirs still has major issues last I checked. And= =20 both of those DBs support less OSes than we do. I think it's going to=20 take more than the *right mindset* and my spare time. > I appreciate your efforts in this regard. Do you have a formal project > plan for this? If you can share it with me, I'll take a look and see if > there is anything I can do to help out. Nope, just some noodling around on the configurator: www.pgfoundry.org/projects/configurator > I am on the verge of starting a Java UI that will query a bunch of the > pg_* tables and give the user information about wasted table space, > index usage, table scans, slow-running queries and spoon-feed it in a > nice attractive interface that can be a real-time system monitor tool.=20 > This could be a cooperative project or might have some redundancy with > what you're up to. I'd be *very* interested in collaborating with you on this. Further, we=20 could feed DTrace (& systemtap?) into the interface to get data that=20 PostgreSQL doesn't currently produce. =2D-=20 =2D-Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco