Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B589FB637 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:02:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28747-05 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:02:17 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from noel.decibel.org (noel.decibel.org [67.100.216.10]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313BB9FB63E for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:02:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: by noel.decibel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 78D32564BC; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:02:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: (hashcash-sendmail, from uid 1001); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:02:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:02:11 -0500 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: Hannes Dorbath Cc: Gregory Stark , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: FORGOT TO CONFIGURE RAID! DELL POWEREDGE 2950 Message-ID: <20070716210210.GZ39272@nasby.net> References: <1184357777.135345.38110@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46988951.9050108@theendofthetunnel.de> <87tzs7b93w.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> <4698A347.2020401@theendofthetunnel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8Bkcj4NmnZ79d4W7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4698A347.2020401@theendofthetunnel.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 amd64 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Hashcash: 1:20:070716:light@theendofthetunnel.de::kI4bXpCVazGZIDnZ:00000000000 0000000000000000000000000USo X-Hashcash: 1:20:070716:stark@enterprisedb.com::XCbvEfgRoEFXqFmu:000000000000000 0000000000000000000000001L/Z X-Hashcash: 1:20:070716:pgsql-performance@postgresql.org::sS9SvMHI4hMCGVPX:00000 0000000000000000000000002N0Q X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200707/179 X-Sequence-Number: 25863 --8Bkcj4NmnZ79d4W7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 12:19:51PM +0200, Hannes Dorbath wrote: > Gregory Stark wrote: > >> From the DELL site it seems this `PERC 5/i' on board controller > >> (assuming that's what you have) doesn't even have a BBU. If you don't > >> plan to post here in a few weeks again about data corruption, go out a= nd > >> shop a serious controller. > >=20 > > This is a bit of a strange comment. A BBU will improve performance but > > Postgres doesn't require one to guarantee data integrity. > >=20 > > If your drives have write caching disabled (ie write-through) and your > > controller does write-through caching and you leave fsync=3Don and > > full_page_writes=3Don which is the default then you shouldn't have any = data > > integrity issues. >=20 > That was my point, controllers without BBU usually leave drive caches > turned on, as with drive caches off performance would be unbearable bad. Wow, are you sure about that? I've never heard it before, but that'd be pretty disturbing if it's true... --=20 Jim Nasby decibel@decibel.org EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) --8Bkcj4NmnZ79d4W7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGm9zSdO30qud8SkgRAhEQAJ97/IfqiGubwkQVWOOuOtCF9d1nRgCfeNx/ Q0tBg/MmDiD+CrXgb/WLagc= =xz2+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8Bkcj4NmnZ79d4W7--