Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BBC9F9FB8 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:04:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37993-04 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:04:49 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from noel.decibel.org (noel.decibel.org [67.100.216.10]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545539F98F9 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:04:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: by noel.decibel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 35C18564B7; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:04:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: (hashcash-sendmail, from uid 1001); Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:04:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:04:39 -0500 From: Decibel! To: Kevin Grittner Cc: Bill Moran , Kevin Kempter , Pgsql performance Subject: Re: significant vacuum issues - looking for suggestions Message-ID: <20070827220438.GR54309@nasby.net> References: <200708241357.23629.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <20070824164144.93ce05bf.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20070827210041.GN54309@nasby.net> <46D30240.EE98.0025.0@wicourts.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeeDLpRJNGbogvEL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46D30240.EE98.0025.0@wicourts.gov> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 amd64 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Hashcash: 1:20:070827:kevin.grittner@wicourts.gov::3c7ESSECRzt8XCtQ:0000000000 00000000000000000000000005Ok X-Hashcash: 1:20:070827:wmoran@collaborativefusion.com::22xpm5DCcyt1Fbus:0000000 0000000000000000000000009GKl X-Hashcash: 1:20:070827:kevin@kevinkempterllc.com::71KvK8I69lRbeS1b:000000000000 0000000000000000000000000TJT X-Hashcash: 1:20:070827:pgsql-performance@postgresql.org::Z+uBPLfajeNoDkg2:00000 0000000000000000000000000COj X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/330 X-Sequence-Number: 26460 --EeeDLpRJNGbogvEL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 04:56:33PM -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote: > >>> Decibel! 08/27/07 4:00 PM >>>=20 > > > > They're running version 8.1.4 > >=20 > > As for your pg_dump idea... why not just do a CREATE TABLE AS SELECT * > > FROM bloated_table? That would likely be much faster than messing around > > with pg_dump. > =20 > He wanted to upgrade to 8.2.4. CREATE TABLE AS won't get him there. > =20 > > > > They're running version 8.1.4 on 4-way dell boxes=20 > > > > with 4Gig of memory on each box attached to RAID-10 disk arrays.=20 > >=20 > > What kind of disk hardware is this running on? A good raid 10 array with > > write caching should be able to handle a 200G database fairly well > =20 > What other details were you looking for? How many drives? Write caching? 200G isn't *that* big for good drive hardware, *IF* it's performing the way it should. You'd be surprised how many arrays fall on their face even from a simple dd test. --=20 Decibel!, aka Jim Nasby decibel@decibel.org EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) --EeeDLpRJNGbogvEL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG00p2dO30qud8SkgRArIWAKCFEaseYwVoRWN1bWug8rB+muhkfACdGxch BV6BBwrzy+LVp9BxVim3tWY= =PLsY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeeDLpRJNGbogvEL--