Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C7B9FA366 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:15:09 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22972-01-2 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:14:44 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.texom.com (sd-6100.dedibox.fr [88.191.35.50]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AD09F9277 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:14:55 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.texom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4893E94017; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:14:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.texom.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.texom.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08525-03; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:14:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from dalistar.local (cac94-7-82-243-27-82.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.27.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.texom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D711E94022; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:14:39 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitri Fontaine To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: dell versus hp Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:14:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: "Scott Marlowe" , "Vivek Khera" References: <82607932-FC46-4B73-BF78-2290EE55F7F5@pvv.ntnu.no> <44B74F2E-29A6-4746-B8A8-E9355CC2F527@kcilink.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711082114.36788.dfontaine@hi-media.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at texom.com X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/111 X-Sequence-Number: 27526 Le Thursday 08 November 2007 19:22:48 Scott Marlowe, vous avez =E9crit=A0: > On Nov 8, 2007 10:43 AM, Vivek Khera wrote: > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > > > elsewhere. But once you have enough disks in an array to spread all > > > the load over that itself may improve write throughput enough to > > > still be a net improvement. > > > > This has been my expeience with 14+ disks in an array (both RAID10 and > > RAID5). The difference is barely noticeable. > > Mine too. May we conclude from this that mixing WAL and data onto the same array is a= =20 good idea starting at 14 spindles? The Dell 2900 5U machine has 10 spindles max, that would make 2 for the OS= =20 (raid1) and 8 for mixing WAL and data... not enough to benefit from the mov= e,=20 or still to test? > I would suggest though, that by the time you get to 14=20 > disks, you switch from RAID-5 to RAID-6 so you have double redundancy. > Performance of a degraded array is better in RAID6 than RAID5, and > you can run your rebuilds much slower since you're still redundant. Is raid6 better than raid10 in term of overall performances, or a better cu= t=20 when you need capacity more than throughput? Thanks for sharing the knowlegde, regards, =2D-=20 dim