Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E8E2E47FA for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:13:31 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 80374-09 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:13:25 -0400 (AST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B5D2E4B26 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:13:25 -0400 (AST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so3222015wxc.28 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:13:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=imnWz/W1sxFQPr1e+GNikpno+2mWyP9kI30cG9TBNKw=; b=hbw3G90tu59dmkC+1Eg1XhUud3WeLjxo0tABM+BvCPzpBkqYz4p73f4L/WGwKL2XrElMvoiLo5J7an1kgdCc2uBZbCiYcYLHVu8uaI97Awye0I9ljmnlrhFJ/YTBBi8Mk5umcQeRzH5w2glIu1KEKzgyC41+cC8iESKMGK6Rgso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b7D9WYpYifOl3+SDg1tPjQcNLR2cHGYVwAAzX91ektCF5PJI5X/92iMDPD6WYzaLvXrXmSsfbkDptJ3JJkyzSxHcEBTY7d2s9//yt27Yepo+uUPo0uEOiPCUm7UZcb9cgXqnNOwQZB/j22yqMypWsA76dzpTzjhpv2NG7Ehfiuw= Received: by 10.141.33.21 with SMTP id l21mr8781381rvj.251.1202501603971; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [216.64.170.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l32sm15662030rvb.2.2008.02.08.12.13.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:13:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:12:53 -0800 From: Mark Wong To: "Jignesh K. Shah" Cc: Simon Riggs , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Benchmark Data requested Message-Id: <20080208121253.93f89bb4.markwkm@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47A792BE.80804@sun.com> References: <1202150236.4252.521.camel@ebony.site> <47A792BE.80804@sun.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.5 (GTK+ 2.12.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200802/92 X-Sequence-Number: 28634 On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:33:34 -0500 "Jignesh K. Shah" wrote: > Hi Simon, > > I have some insight into TPC-H on how it works. > > First of all I think it is a violation of TPC rules to publish numbers > without auditing them first. So even if I do the test to show the > better performance of PostgreSQL 8.3, I cannot post it here or any > public forum without doing going through the "process". (Even though it > is partial benchmark as they are just doing the equivalent of the > PowerRun of TPCH) Maybe the PR of PostgreSQL team should email > info@tpc.org about them and see what they have to say about that comparison. I think I am qualified enough to say it is not a violation of TPC fair-use policy if we scope the data as a measure of how PostgreSQL has changed from 8.1 to 8.3 and refrain from comparing these results to what any other database is doing. The point is to measure PostgreSQL's progress not market it, correct? Regards, Mark