Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8212B64FCE2 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:51:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26870-04 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:51:18 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041DE64FCC4 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:51:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from commandprompt.com (CPE001b63afe888-CM001adea9c5a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.236.211.160]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m89FsY2o027591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:54:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:51:13 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL TPC-H test result? Message-ID: <20080909155113.GM59092@commandprompt.com> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Sullivan , pgsql-general@postgresql.org References: <20080909123947.GA59092@commandprompt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200809/332 X-Sequence-Number: 137339 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 10:06:01PM +0800, Amber wrote: > Yes, we don't care about the performance results, but we do care about the point that PostgreSQL can't give the correct results of TPC-H queries. > I have never heard a reputable source claim this. I have grave doubts about their claim: they don't specify what implementation of TPC-H they use. They don't actually have the right, AIUI, to claim they tested under TPC-H, since their results aren't listed anywhere on http://www.tpc.org/tpch/results/tpch_results.asp?orderby=dbms. It could well be that they made up something that kinda does something like TPC-H, tailored to how their database works, and then claimed others can't do the job. That's nice marketing material, but it's not a meaningful test result. Without access to the methodology, you should be wary of accepting any of the conclusions. There is, I understand, an implementation of something like TPC-H that you could use to test it yourself. http://osdldbt.sourceforge.net/. DBT-3 is supposed to be that workload. Please note that the license does not allow you to publish competitive tests for marketing reasons. but you could see for yourself whether the claim is true that way. A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@commandprompt.com +1 503 667 4564 x104 http://www.commandprompt.com/