Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDHXX-0001f9-9y for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:54:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDHXW-0006tZ-Lk for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:54:34 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDHXU-0006tO-8Y for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:54:32 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDHXN-00053y-6r for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:54:31 +0000 Received: from anarazel.de (p54AF4D62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.175.77.98]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreue103) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M6xID-1VJY5X3vrp-00wo5k; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:54:11 +0100 Received: by anarazel.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C4F510094F; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:54:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:54:10 +0100 From: Andres Freund To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Robert Haas , Jim Nasby , Alvaro Herrera , Peter Geoghegan , Tom Lane , Andrew Dunstan , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [PERFORM] encouraging index-only scans Message-ID: <20140211175410.GF31598@awork2.anarazel.de> References: <20130907002908.GA12753@momjian.us> <20130907053449.GE626072@alap2.anarazel.de> <5238854F.5040708@nasby.net> <20130917231050.GD29545@awork2.anarazel.de> <20140201032207.GD31141@momjian.us> <20140211155607.GB2289@momjian.us> <20140211171213.GE2289@momjian.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140211171213.GE2289@momjian.us> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:ROI6TC6Bk2JAHjme8z9ZVOMYJ56q/TnlfTZU9qCYVK1 lZX9XVmx6zcq0LOAZa7TrOxQx5Wnplaew2Tr8D5kZBfL7Upxwk 0v3Nm9x6I+ePjQr5lkuAtyT1kus/KLH/9+0jVuX1FEKp6H3JOX f+rriUU5vElIbhLnU0T2wSy1UUsPGMHX92acD5+lpuV9xxygoF pg60mQZIO2iHVBWHHfgnqJMh0xmcsAK51fRaWiF/9Hi3xEsmW4 7Ievn3NqL+B3xLKaWxvpk3+E6lwOjshmoyxp2OUQ+QYkk2tIpe HqOm+UhupwYkVVeGmzJyizWb6PnfzQhhw1f9SCzedKUQC9HX3D pAppbBj8JSjFeOLXW+wNPsJsUVzebq8+EHb7W+sAP X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 2014-02-11 12:12:13 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Yes, that pretty much sums it up. We introduced index-only scans in 9.2 > (2012) but they still seem to be not usable for insert-only workloads > two years later. Based on current progress, it doesn't look like this > will be corrected until 9.5 (2015). I am kind of confused why this has > not generated more urgency. I think this largely FUD. They are hugely beneficial in some scenarios and less so in others. Just like lots of other features we have. Greetings, Andres Freund -- Andres Freund http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers