Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKtRz-0000Hs-P3 for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:52:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKtRz-0004sO-7E for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:52:51 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKtRx-0004qt-RB for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:52:49 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0152.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.152] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKtRs-0001MJ-T1 for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:52:48 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562731A7015; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:52:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50, 0, 0, , d41d8cd98f00b204, alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org, :::, RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:965:967:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1539:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2859:2895:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4390:4605:4659:5007:6261:9025:9121:10004:10400:10848:11232:11256:11257:11658:11914:12296:12517:12519:12663:13069:13311:13357:13894:13895:21080, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:fn, MSBL:0, DNSBL:none, Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-HE-Tag: arm21_8c15c2b218f30 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1628 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [181.43.21.155]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf01.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6EA69A68; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 15:53:05 -0300 (CLST) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 15:53:05 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: bkrug Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Avoiding Refreezing XIDs Repeatedly Message-ID: <20150209185305.GF3391@alvh.no-ip.org> References: <1423497516487-5837222.post@n5.nabble.com> <1423507553954-5837247.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1423507553954-5837247.post@n5.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org bkrug wrote: > Matheus de Oliveira wrote > > It changed in recent versions (9.3 or 9.4, I don't recall exactly which) > > and moved to tuple header, but what you described is exactly what was > > done, > > the xid was 2. > > Should the relfrozenxid of pg_class then equal 2 for very old and already > vacuumed tables? Because that is not what I am seeing. No. The problem is that it's not easy to change the relfrozenxid when an INSERT/UPDATE command creates a tuple with a non-frozen XID. -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance