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* Determine dead tuples size
@ 2007-03-15 07:58 Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
  2007-03-15 11:43 ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Daniel Cristian Cruz <danielcristian@gmail.com>
  2007-03-15 11:45 ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Michael Fuhr <mike@fuhr.org>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Alexey Romanchuk @ 2007-03-15 07:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

Hello guys,

is it possible to determine dead tuples size for table?

-- 
Alexey Romanchuk





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* Re: Determine dead tuples size
  2007-03-15 07:58 Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
@ 2007-03-15 11:43 ` Daniel Cristian Cruz <danielcristian@gmail.com>
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From: Daniel Cristian Cruz @ 2007-03-15 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ; +Cc: pgsql-performance

Try the contrib module pgstattuple.

2007/3/15, Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>:
> Hello guys,
>
> is it possible to determine dead tuples size for table?
>
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> Alexey Romanchuk
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* Re: Determine dead tuples size
  2007-03-15 07:58 Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
@ 2007-03-15 11:45 ` Michael Fuhr <mike@fuhr.org>
  2007-03-16 05:41   ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
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From: Michael Fuhr @ 2007-03-15 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 01:58:47PM +0600, Alexey Romanchuk wrote:
> is it possible to determine dead tuples size for table?

See contrib/pgstattuple.

-- 
Michael Fuhr



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* Re: Determine dead tuples size
  2007-03-15 07:58 Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
  2007-03-15 11:45 ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Michael Fuhr <mike@fuhr.org>
@ 2007-03-16 05:41   ` Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
  2007-03-16 09:35     ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
  2007-03-16 14:29     ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Alexey Romanchuk @ 2007-03-16 05:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

Hello, Michael.

> On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 01:58:47PM +0600, Alexey Romanchuk wrote:
>> is it possible to determine dead tuples size for table?

> See contrib/pgstattuple.

thanks, i install contribs and try to analyze result of pgstattuple
function and found it strange.

Here it is output:
                             pgstattuple
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 (233242624,1186804,206555428,88.56,20707,3380295,1.45,13896816,5.96)

When i try to sum all size (live, dead and free) the sum is not equal
total size. For this table 206555428 + 3380295 + 13896816 = 223832539.
The difference between total and sum is 9410085. It is near 5%.

Is it ok?

-- 
Alexey Romanchuk





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* Re: Determine dead tuples size
  2007-03-15 07:58 Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
  2007-03-15 11:45 ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Michael Fuhr <mike@fuhr.org>
  2007-03-16 05:41   ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
@ 2007-03-16 09:35     ` Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Heikki Linnakangas @ 2007-03-16 09:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: aromanchuk@swsoft.com; +Cc: pgsql-performance

Alexey Romanchuk wrote:
> thanks, i install contribs and try to analyze result of pgstattuple
> function and found it strange.

Try "SELECT * FROM pgstattuple('foo')", that'll tell you what the 
columns are. Take a look at README.pgstattuple as well for more details.

-- 
   Heikki Linnakangas
   EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com



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* Re: Determine dead tuples size
  2007-03-15 07:58 Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
  2007-03-15 11:45 ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Michael Fuhr <mike@fuhr.org>
  2007-03-16 05:41   ` Re: Determine dead tuples size Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com>
@ 2007-03-16 14:29     ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2007-03-16 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: aromanchuk@swsoft.com; +Cc: pgsql-performance

Alexey Romanchuk <aromanchuk@swsoft.com> writes:
> When i try to sum all size (live, dead and free) the sum is not equal
> total size. For this table 206555428 + 3380295 + 13896816 = 223832539.
> The difference between total and sum is 9410085. It is near 5%.

pgstattuple is a bit simplistic: it doesn't count the page headers or
item pointers at all.  It looks to me like it also fails to consider
the effects of alignment padding --- if a tuple's length is shown as
63, that's what it counts, even though the effective length is 64.
(This might not be a problem in practice --- I'm not sure if the stored
t_len has always been maxaligned or not.)

			regards, tom lane



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