Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E67664FD73 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95680-02 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:16 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD7864FD14 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so519031rvf.43 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:37:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0HMglSYHsh73MeU4bQWUidig0cvFdRJ4gnZo0Fg48Kk=; b=T/csV8g2f/a90Ndme+Wq06X6hzW0guQtk67V2Go4Qa+ArFmuiKV/TV3JYnrBdjSzSM SOx9vK5jEWZMQpt/H2U/lMZ0sUicosKM19gj3T1W27VfHP13NzKrUpEN3sCEiaUloc+C C3GUc3VnTvf1rWH/mQazO8dV7ouXLssuqvC4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vT4TNZqDV6uJ1EwT4m1DzSOSPWhOPipE6Yld+VGtOjGvLXoX47+YEZnc4LllcgfvEC Z8Jt7pNXB5eJndNodMoZ6sMZpWb6iTll+yvTUNssec2TrEc2ZbHoecGErq4cpP7+7LwO 23so44CnfEQh/hCjsKEKwOTH/8KHaD7/t8J3s= Received: by 10.141.145.11 with SMTP id x11mr712821rvn.215.1224801435168; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.4.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2c5ef4e30810231537t5a79d0b2uc1bf35698b7bb60d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:37:15 -0700 From: "Rob Wultsch" To: "ries van Twisk" Subject: Re: Annoying Reply-To Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_51641_32698369.1224801435166" References: <200810231701.m9NH1ML21995@momjian.us> <4900B39B.2040508@kkmfg.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.001 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200810/1057 X-Sequence-Number: 139306 ------=_Part_51641_32698369.1224801435166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:42 AM, ries van Twisk wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Collin Kidder wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >>> >>>> Mikkel is right, every other well-organized mailing list I've ever been >>>> on handles things the sensible way he suggests, but everybody on his side >>>> who's been on lists here for a while already knows this issue is a dead >>>> horse. Since I use the most advanced e-mail client on the market I just >>>> work around that the settings here are weird, it does annoy me a bit anytime >>>> I stop to think about it though. >>>> >>>> >>> I think this is the crux of the problem --- if I subscribed to multiple >>> email lists, and some have "rely" going to the list and some have >>> "reply" going to the author, I would have to think about the right reply >>> option every time I send email. >>> >>> Fortunately, every email list I subscribe to and manage behaves like the >>> Postgres lists. >>> >>> >>> >> I find it difficult to believe that every list you subscribe to behaves as >> the Postgres list does. Not that I'm doubting you, just that it's difficult >> given that the PG list is the ONLY list I've ever been on to use Reply as >> just replying to the author. Every other list I've ever seen has reply as >> the list address and requires Reply All to reply to the original poster. >> Thus, I would fall into the category of people who have to think hard in >> order to do the correct thing when posting to this list. >> > > I have the same experience, only PG list seems to behave different. > > In my humble opinion I feel that I am subscribed to the list (It also says > on the bottom Sent via pgsql-general mailing list ( > pgsql-general@postgresql.org)), so a reply (not reply all --- remove > original author) should go back to the list where I am subscribed at, in in > my opinion the source is the list aswell (that's why I am getting it in the > first place). > I know of at least one other list that is similar: MySQL. And I brought it up a year ago with no eventual change: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/209593 After a while you just get used to hitting reply all when you mean to reply all. I now prefer (though not strongly) this setting. -- Rob Wultsch ------=_Part_51641_32698369.1224801435166 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:42 AM, ries van Twisk <pg@rvt.dds.nl> wrote:

On Oct 23, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Collin Kidder wrote:

Bruce Momjian wrote:

Mikkel is right, every other well-organized mailing list I've ever been on handles things the sensible way he suggests, but everybody on his side who's been on lists here for a while already knows this issue is a dead horse.  Since I use the most advanced e-mail client on the market I just work around that the settings here are weird, it does annoy me a bit anytime I stop to think about it though.


I think this is the crux of the problem --- if I subscribed to multiple
email lists, and some have "rely" going to the list and some have
"reply" going to the author, I would have to think about the right reply
option every time I send email.

Fortunately, every email list I subscribe to and manage behaves like the
Postgres lists.



I find it difficult to believe that every list you subscribe to behaves as the Postgres list does. Not that I'm doubting you, just that it's difficult given that the PG list is the ONLY list I've ever been on to use Reply as just replying to the author. Every other list I've ever seen has reply as the list address and requires Reply All to reply to the original poster. Thus, I would fall into the category of people who have to think hard in order to do the correct thing when posting to this list.

I have the same experience, only PG list seems to behave different.

In my humble opinion I feel that I am subscribed to the list (It also says on the bottom Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org)), so a reply (not reply all --- remove original author) should go back to the list where I am subscribed at, in in my opinion the source is the list aswell (that's why I am getting it in the first place).


I know of at least one other list that is similar: MySQL.

And I brought it up a year ago with no eventual change: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/209593

After a while you just get used to hitting reply all when you mean to reply all. I now prefer (though not strongly) this setting.


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Rob Wultsch
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