Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uHS0J-002YsQ-Be for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 18:47:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uHS0F-0083zs-J4 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 18:47:51 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uHS0F-0083zk-5r for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 18:47:51 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uHS0C-002zrb-1f for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 18:47:50 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB27C37A2F9 for ; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:47:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s899.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAA737958E; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:47:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s474.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s899.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E562C8BA81; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:47:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: s474.loopia.se (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yesql.se Received: from s899.loopia.se ([172.22.191.6]) by s474.loopia.se (s474.loopia.se [172.22.190.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Dnzy9_NPA7Lc; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:47:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 89.255.232.193 Received: from smtpclient.apple (customer-89-255-232-193.stosn.net [89.255.232.193]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s899.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1441B2C8BA60; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:47:47 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yesql.se; s=loopiadkim1707475645; t=1747766867; bh=Y8fyvNM+TL0zsOpUhdYa2h6U0oKQ51Dr4UFzZPWSOtw=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=FqB3afYzkAuytIYERAhrHRmTCUCRGc3MWevvRQFinTqjD18r+Jep3zCKLgeAsSYJ8 82cMZ4fabgetZjGLBFoZp51YkIMc9U9KzV+lFPQuNPSB0zNzQlQpA+lRospvnNCu83 aCkRKZVzNyp4WfEPYMt4+Tu936Lk/H2hBJojZTn/+L2ad3vf7d07HwZfHS8htcrzHa 5Idw/Y42lahEQuyLuCJ8REG2aKPjR+2xtiUJsVhi7RwaXRdobvvumln1KGJMcs97Fi R8920ZdyBIBp+LYjUgrOUHoXAaKskkxLu9UpA8lfpOrFDf0+P7TrYgsDAYRQDoq5zO oWJxx+Nk/2pcA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51.11.2\)) Subject: Re: proposal: schema variables From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 20:47:36 +0200 Cc: Marcos Pegoraro , Pavel Stehule , jian he , Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>, Laurenz Albe , Erik Rijkers , Michael Paquier , Amit Kapila , DUVAL REMI , PostgreSQL Hackers Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <41D2EE98-224D-4B43-9F8B-127525A99CD7@yesql.se> References: To: Bruce Momjian X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51.11.2) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 20 May 2025, at 18:39, Bruce Momjian wrote: >=20 > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 01:33:18PM -0300, Marcos Pegoraro wrote: >> Em ter., 20 de mai. de 2025 =C3=A0s 11:56, Bruce Momjian = >> escreveu: >>=20 >> I will again ask why this patch set is being reposted when there = is no >> plan to apply it to git master >>=20 >> Too bad. I would love to have this functionality, from the user's = point of view >> there are problems where it would solve them wonderfully. I don't = know >> technically of what prevents it from being natively on core, but it = would be >> great, it would definitely be. >=20 > My only point is that we should only be using email lists for work = that > is being actively worked on to be added to community Postgres. There > has been talk of a trimmed-down version of this being applied, but I > don't see any work in that direction. >=20 > This patch should be moved to a separate location where perhaps people > can subscribe to updates when they are posted, perhaps github. As a project with no roadmap governed by open forum consensus I don't = think we have any right to tell community members what they can or cannot work on = here, any technical discussion which conforms with our published policies = should be welcome. If Pavel want's to continue rebasing his patchset here then he = has, IMHO, every right to do so. Whether or not a committer will show interest at some point is another = thing, but we are seeing a very good role-model for taking responsibility for = ones work here at the very least =3D) -- Daniel Gustafsson