X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8B2DBAA1 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:29:00 -0400 (AST) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14645-01 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:29:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from linda-2.paradise.net.nz (bm-2a.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.181]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF878DBA5F for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:28:57 -0400 (AST) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelbe2-src-nat-1 [203.96.152.177]) by linda-2.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IQ800EA810AX5@linda-2.paradise.net.nz> for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:28:58 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-89.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.89]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46A51222A64; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:28:57 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:28:57 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood Subject: Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( In-reply-to: To: Luke Lonergan Cc: Dave Cramer , Greg Stark , Joshua Marsh , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Message-id: <437F9919.20305@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051106) References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.666 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.666] X-Spam-Score: 0.666 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200511/404 X-Sequence-Number: 15661 Luke Lonergan wrote: > Mark, > > On 11/18/05 3:46 PM, "Mark Kirkwood" wrote: > > >>If you alter this to involve more complex joins (e.g 4. way star) and >>(maybe add a small number of concurrent executors too) - is it still the >>case? > > > 4-way star, same result, that's part of my point. With Bizgres MPP, the > 4-way star uses 4 concurrent scanners, though not all are active all the > time. And that's per segment instance - we normally use one segment > instance per CPU, so our concurrency is NCPUs plus some. > Luke - I don't think I was clear enough about what I was asking, sorry. I added the more "complex joins" comment because: - I am happy that seqscan is cpu bound after ~110M/s (It's cpu bound on my old P3 system even earlier than that....) - I am curious if the *other* access methods (indexscan, nested loop, hash, merge, bitmap) also suffer then same fate. I'm guessing from your comment that you have tested this too, but I think its worth clarifying! With respect to Bizgres MPP, scan parallelism is a great addition... very nice! (BTW - is that in 0.8, or are we talking a new product variant?) regards Mark