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* n00b autovacuum question
@ 2006-03-18 12:01 Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  2006-03-18 15:54 ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
  2006-03-18 17:46 ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Antoine @ 2006-03-18 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

Hi,
I have enabled the autovacuum daemon, but occasionally still get a
message telling me I need to run vacuum when I access a table in
pgadmin. Is this normal? Should I use scripts instead of the daemon?
Would posting config options make this a much more sensible question?
Cheers
Antoine

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* Re: n00b autovacuum question
  2006-03-18 12:01 n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
@ 2006-03-18 15:54 ` Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
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From: Matthew T. O'Connor @ 2006-03-18 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

More detail please.  It sounds like you running 8.1 and talking about 
the integrated autovacuum is that correct? Also, what is the message 
specifically from pgadmin?

Matt

Antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> I have enabled the autovacuum daemon, but occasionally still get a
> message telling me I need to run vacuum when I access a table in
> pgadmin. Is this normal? Should I use scripts instead of the daemon?
> Would posting config options make this a much more sensible question?
> Cheers
> Antoine
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* Re: n00b autovacuum question
  2006-03-18 12:01 n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
@ 2006-03-18 17:46 ` Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  2006-03-19 12:27   ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Andreas Pflug @ 2006-03-18 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

Antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> I have enabled the autovacuum daemon, but occasionally still get a
> message telling me I need to run vacuum when I access a table in
> pgadmin.

pgAdmin notices a discrepancy between real rowcount and estimated 
rowcount and thus suggests to run vacuum/analyze; it won't examine 
autovacuum rules so it might warn although autovac is running ok.

If you're sure autovacuum is running fine, just dismiss the message. 
It's a hint for newbies that do *not* run vacuum because they don't know 
what it's good for.

Regards
Andreas



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* Re: n00b autovacuum question
  2006-03-18 12:01 n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  2006-03-18 17:46 ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
@ 2006-03-19 12:27   ` Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  2006-03-19 14:47     ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Antoine @ 2006-03-19 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

On 18/03/06, Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de> wrote:
> Antoine wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have enabled the autovacuum daemon, but occasionally still get a
> > message telling me I need to run vacuum when I access a table in
> > pgadmin.
>
> pgAdmin notices a discrepancy between real rowcount and estimated
> rowcount and thus suggests to run vacuum/analyze; it won't examine
> autovacuum rules so it might warn although autovac is running ok.
>
> If you're sure autovacuum is running fine, just dismiss the message.

I guess that is my problem - I a not sure it is running fine. The
process is definitely running but I am getting lots of complaints
about performance. This probably has lots to do with crap code and not
much to do with the database but I am still searching the maintenance
avenue... We have a massive project coming up and I want to go for
Postgres (the boss wants Oracle). If I can't get my stuff together I
am not sure my arguments will stick... problem is I don't really have
the time to experiment properly.
Cheers
Antoine

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* Re: n00b autovacuum question
  2006-03-18 12:01 n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  2006-03-18 17:46 ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  2006-03-19 12:27   ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
@ 2006-03-19 14:47     ` Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  2006-03-19 15:34       ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Andreas Pflug @ 2006-03-19 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

Antoine wrote:
> On 18/03/06, Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de> wrote:
> 
>>Antoine wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>I have enabled the autovacuum daemon, but occasionally still get a
>>>message telling me I need to run vacuum when I access a table in
>>>pgadmin.

Bring up the postgresql.conf editor on that server, and watch if pgadmin 
complains.

Regards,
Andreas



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* Re: n00b autovacuum question
  2006-03-18 12:01 n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  2006-03-18 17:46 ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  2006-03-19 12:27   ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  2006-03-19 14:47     ` Re: n00b autovacuum question Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
@ 2006-03-19 15:34       ` Antoine <melser.anton@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Antoine @ 2006-03-19 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

On 19/03/06, Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de> wrote:
> Antoine wrote:
> > On 18/03/06, Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de> wrote:
> >
> >>Antoine wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>I have enabled the autovacuum daemon, but occasionally still get a
> >>>message telling me I need to run vacuum when I access a table in
> >>>pgadmin.
>
> Bring up the postgresql.conf editor on that server, and watch if pgadmin
> complains.

Hi,
I am not sure I understand what "bring up" means. Could you explain?
Thanks
Antoine

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