X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9EA11F6F93 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:50:14 -0300 (ADT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Score: 0.112 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.112 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.112] Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3dycNDIO85Mh for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:50:06 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from mail.logix-tt.com (unknown [212.211.145.186]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D551A11F6CB0 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:50:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from kingfisher.intern.logix-tt.com (T8ebe.t.pppool.de [89.55.142.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.logix-tt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DC1656CB; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:51:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kingfisher.intern.logix-tt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D349C181C1F45; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:50:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44463212.2010708@logix-tt.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:50:26 +0200 From: Markus Schaber Organization: Logical Tracking and Tracing International AG, Switzerland User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Magnus Hagander Cc: Pgsql performance Subject: Re: Inserts optimization? References: <6BCB9D8A16AC4241919521715F4D8BCEA352C3@algol.sollentuna.se> In-Reply-To: <6BCB9D8A16AC4241919521715F4D8BCEA352C3@algol.sollentuna.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200604/427 X-Sequence-Number: 18511 Hi, Magnus, Magnus Hagander wrote: >>To support mysql, they break performance for _every other_ >>database system? > Actually, it probably helps on SQLite as well. AFAICS from the FAQ http://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q7 and #q8, SQLite does serialize itsself. > And considering they only > support postgresql, mysql and sqlite, there is some merit to it from > their perspective. Okay, I understand, but I hesitate to endorse it. IMHO, they should write their application in a "normal" way, and then have the serialization etc. encapsulated in the database driver interface (possibly a wrapper class or so). >> >>Now, I understand how the mysql people manage to spread the >>legend of mysql being fast. They convince software developers >>to thwart all others. >> > Yes, same as the fact that most (at least FOSS) web project-du-jour are > "dumbed down" to the mysql featureset. (And not just mysql, but > mysql-lowest-common-factors, which means myisam etc) Well, most of those projects don't need a database, they need a bunch of tables and a lock. Heck, they even use client-side SELECT-loops in PHP instead of a JOIN because "I always confuse left and right". Markus -- Markus Schaber | Logical Tracking&Tracing International AG Dipl. Inf. | Software Development GIS Fight against software patents in EU! www.ffii.org www.nosoftwarepatents.org