X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB129F969C for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:41:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19235-03 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:41:11 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from mail.aviawest.com (mail.aviawest.com [70.66.0.234]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5AE9F9586 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:41:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from s0106000d5639fbfb.gv.shawcable.net ([24.69.163.91] helo=[192.168.33.226]) by mail.aviawest.com with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.24) id 1FaeFu-0006Kc-1a; Mon, 01 May 2006 12:40:26 -0700 Message-ID: <44566426.2040707@aviawest.com> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 12:40:22 -0700 From: Erik Myllymaki Reply-To: erik.myllymaki@aviawest.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Marlowe CC: Tom Arthurs , Mark Lewis , Vivek Khera , Pgsql performance Subject: Re: hardare config question References: <445236D5.5060509@aviawest.com> <3DFCE70E-E4BB-40AB-B27F-99E90E8159CA@khera.org> <1146246441.15712.41.camel@archimedes> <44564C3F.2040609@aviawest.com> <445651F1.9070307@jobflash.com> <1146509515.22037.26.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> In-Reply-To: <1146509515.22037.26.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-"AviawestResorts"-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-"AviawestResorts"-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: erik.myllymaki@aviawest.com X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200605/18 X-Sequence-Number: 18805 guess who just bought a 3ware BBU on ebay... Thanks for all the posts, consider me educated! (on the importance of BBU on RAID controllers, anyway) :) Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 13:22, Tom Arthurs wrote: >> UPS does not protect against the tech behind the rack unplugging the >> power cable, or an accidental power cycle from exercising the wrong >> switch. :) Both are probably more common causes of failure than a total >> power outage. >> >> Erik Myllymaki wrote: >>> I have been in discussion with 3ware support and after adjusting some >>> settings, the 3ware card in RAID 1 gets better performance than the >>> single drive. I guess this had everything to do with the write (and >>> maybe read?) cache. >>> >>> Of course now i am in a dangerous situation - using volatile write >>> cache without a BBU. >>> >>> If I were to use a UPS to ensure a soft shutdown in the event of power >>> loss, am I somewhat as safe as if I were to purchase a BBU for this >>> RAID card? > > Nor does it prevent an electrician from dropping a tiny piece of wire > into a power conditioner, causing a feedback that blows the other two > power conditioners, all three industrial UPSes, and the switch that > allows the Diesal generator to take over. > > When that happened to me, I had the only database server in the company > to come back up 100% in tact. You can guess by now I also had the only > database server with battery backed cache... > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match