Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D13E9FA5D3 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:59:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30824-05 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:59:26 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from community1.commandprompt.com (host-130.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.130]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3029E9FB4F0 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:59:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.27.150] ([12.38.10.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by community1.commandprompt.com (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5/Debian-3ubuntu1.1) with ESMTP id k9DHwXCa026513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:58:35 -0700 Message-ID: <452FD3C9.4000303@dunslane.net> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:58:33 -0400 From: Andrew Dunstan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060804 Fedora/1.0.4-0.5.1.fc5 SeaMonkey/1.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joshua D. Drake" CC: "Jim C. Nasby" , Jeff Davis , Bucky Jordan , Alvaro Herrera , josh@agliodbs.com, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Hints proposal References: <78ED28FACE63744386D68D8A9D1CF5D4209CBD@MAIL.corp.lumeta.com> <1160760211.31966.231.camel@dogma.v10.wvs> <20061013173024.GE28647@nasby.net> <452FCDE4.6090701@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: <452FCDE4.6090701@commandprompt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.146 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200610/775 X-Sequence-Number: 92672 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Jim C. Nasby wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:23:31AM -0700, Jeff Davis wrote: >> >>> Right. And I think the sane ideas are along the lines of estimate & cost >>> corrections (like Tom is saying). >>> >> Let me ask this... how long do you (and others) want to wait for those? >> It's great that the planner is continually improving, but it also >> appears that there's still a long road ahead. Having a dune-buggy to get >> to your destination ahead of the road might not be a bad idea... :) >> > > It's all about resources Jim.. I have yet to see anyone step up and > offer to help work on the planner in this thread (except Tom of course). > > > It's worse than that. Dune buggies do not run cost free. They require oil, petrol, and maintenance. Somebody wants to build a Maserati and you want to divert resources to maintaining dune buggies? cheers andrew