Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187EB9FA4C5 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:51:54 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73563-04 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:51:44 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-130.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.130]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D349D9FA6B5 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:51:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.95] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9KIpZT2007424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:51:36 -0700 Message-ID: <45391AD9.8080808@commandprompt.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:52:09 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Suffolk CC: Dave Cramer , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: New hardware thoughts References: <0D8823B6-2A2D-40BA-B207-9DA0D50EDFB6@vanilla.net> <463B9F43-74FC-4DFE-ABC4-357228901174@fastcrypt.com> <5CBF0F4C-1EBE-480C-AD94-9E65A5A9BC8E@vanilla.net> In-Reply-To: <5CBF0F4C-1EBE-480C-AD94-9E65A5A9BC8E@vanilla.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.186 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200610/435 X-Sequence-Number: 21564 Ben Suffolk wrote: >> You mentioned a "Perc" controller, so I'll assume this is a Dell. >> >> My advice is to find another supplier. check the archives for Dell. >> >> Basically you have no idea what the Perc controller is since it is >> whatever Dell decides to ship that day. >> >> In general though you are going down the right path here. Disks first, >> memory second, cpu third >> >> Dave > > Yes I am looking at either the 2950 or the 6850. I think the only think > that the 6850 really offers me over the 2950 is more expandability in > the spare processor, and additional memory > sockets. In all other respects the config I am looking at would fit > either chassis. Although the 2950, being slightly newer has the DRAC 5 > (dells implementation of IPMI) management, which may be useful. Get an HP with the 64* series. They are a good, well rounded machine for PostgreSQL. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/pscmisc/vac/us/en/ss/proliant/proliant-dl.html?jumpid=re_R295_prodexp/busproducts/computing-server/proliant-dl > I hear what you say about the raid card, but how likely are they to > change it from the LSI Mega Raid one in reality? But I am open to Heh... very likely. I have a 6 drive Dell machine with a Perc controller (lsi rebrand). If I put it in RAID 5, it refuses to get more than 8 megs a second. If I put it in RAID 10, it get about 50 megs a second. If I get the offshelf LSI Megaraid withe the same configuration? You don't want to know... it will just make you want to cry at the fact that you bought a Dell. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > suggestions if you have any specific models from other manufacturers I > should look at. I do need to be able to get the fast hardware support on > it though that I can get from the likes of Dells 4 hours on site call > out, so rolling my own isn't an option on this one really (unless it was > so much cheaper I could have a hot standby or at least a cupboard of all > the needed parts instantly available to me) > > Regards > > Ben > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate