Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B009FA0EF for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:16:28 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22146-05 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:16:17 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8E09F9F47 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:16:17 -0400 (AST) Received: from ool-435121e8.dyn.optonline.net ([67.81.33.232] helo=[192.168.0.96]) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GutFn-0004hr-Gr; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:16:15 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 67.81.33.232 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: tocr Message-ID: <458178CE.7020003@zeut.net> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:16:14 -0500 From: Matthew O'Connor User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0a1 (Windows/20060724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Lane CC: "Joshua D. Drake" , Josh Berkus , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org, Bruce Momjian , Alvaro Herrera , Alexander Staubo , Michael Stone Subject: Re: New to PostgreSQL, performance considerations References: <200612140104.kBE14Dx09695@momjian.us> <200612131836.25713.josh@agliodbs.com> <1166065359.6494.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15642.1166075096@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <15642.1166075096@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200612/372 X-Sequence-Number: 22428 Tom Lane wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" writes: >> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 18:36 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: >>> Mostly, though, pgbench just gives the I/O system a workout. It's not a >>> really good general workload. > >> It also will not utilize all cpus on a many cpu machine. We recently >> found that the only way to *really* test with pgbench was to actually >> run 4+ copies of pgbench at the same time. > > The pgbench app itself becomes the bottleneck at high transaction > rates. Awhile back I rewrote it to improve its ability to issue > commands concurrently, but then desisted from submitting the > changes --- if we change the app like that, future numbers would > be incomparable to past ones, which sort of defeats the purpose of a > benchmark no? What is to stop us from running the new pgbench against older versions of PGSQL? Any stats taken from a run of pgbench a long time ago probably aren't relevant against a modern test anyway as the underlying hardware and OS are likely to have changed or been updated.