Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D9A9FBA13 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:03:01 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72066-03-3 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:02:47 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from 66-226-76-106.dedicated.abac.net (66-226-76-106.dedicated.abac.net [66.226.76.106]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2839FB79A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:02:47 -0400 (AST) Received: (qmail 18424 invoked by uid 2020); 6 Mar 2007 07:02:45 -0800 Received: from wsip-70-167-125-69.sd.sd.cox.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (70.167.125.69) by 192.168.0.4 with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Mar 2007 07:02:45 -0800 Message-ID: <45ED83C1.6000003@modgraph-usa.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 07:07:45 -0800 From: "Craig A. James" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran CC: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Estimate the size of the SQL file generated by pg_dump utility References: <45ECCFCA.2010501@presinet.com> <200703060222.l262MLi09584@momjian.us> <20070306084437.1f52c123.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20070306084437.1f52c123.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.079 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Archive-Number: 200703/128 X-Sequence-Number: 23533 Bill Moran wrote: > I'm curious, what problem does the disclaimer cause? > > I wrote the following TOS for my personal system: > https://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/9 > Excerpt of the relevant part: > "If you send me email, you are granting me the unrestricted right to use > the contents of that email however I see fit, unless otherwise agreed in > writing beforehand. You have no rights to the privacy of any email that you > send me. If I feel the need, I will forward emails to authorities or make > their contents publicly available. By sending me email you consent to this > policy and agree that it overrides any disclaimers or policies that may > exist elsewhere." > > I have no idea if that's legally binding or not, but I've talked to a few > associates who have some experience in law, and they all argue that email > disclaimers probably aren't legally binding anyway -- so the result is > undefined. No, it's not legally binding. Agreements are only binding if both parties agree, and someone sending you email has not consented to your statement. If I send you something with a copyright mark, you'd better respect it unless you have a signed agreement granting you rights. Federal law always wins. Disclaimers are bad for two reasons. First, they're powerless. Just because Acme Corp. attaches a disclaimer doesn't mean they've absolved themselves of responsibility for the actions of their employees. Second, they're insulting to the employees. It's a big red flag saying, "We, Acme Corp., hire clowns we don't trust, and THIS person may be one of them!" Craig