Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72729FB3CA for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 10:16:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37703-03 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 10:16:21 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: delayed 00:29:55.727146 by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from svr4.postgresql.org (svr4.postgresql.org [66.98.251.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0EE9FBDA9 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 10:16:16 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.3 Received: from www.3times25.net (66-23-211-34.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.34]) by svr4.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC345AF03F for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 12:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.3times25.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6975403B for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 08:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46164113.9060305@3times25.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:46:11 -0400 From: Geoffrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: SCSI vs SATA References: <19221.1175751146@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1175786370.9839.31.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <28551.1175839215@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20070406114336.GD4374@mathom.us> In-Reply-To: <20070406114336.GD4374@mathom.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200704/161 X-Sequence-Number: 24038 Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 02:00:15AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> It seems hard to believe that the vendors themselves wouldn't burn in >> the drives for half a day, if that's all it takes to eliminate a large >> fraction of infant mortality. The savings in return processing and >> customer goodwill would surely justify the electricity they'd use. > > Wouldn't help if the reason for the infant mortality is bad handling > between the factory and the rack. One thing that I did question in the > CMU study was the lack of infant mortality--I've definately observed it, > but it might just be that my UPS guy is clumsier than theirs. Good point. Folks must realize that carriers handle computer hardware the same way they handle a box of marshmallows or ball bearings.. A box is a box is a box. -- Until later, Geoffrey Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin