Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D589FBCDB for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:21:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78582-03-2 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:21:04 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from exchange.g2switchworks.com (mail.g2switchworks.com [63.87.162.25]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27189FBCF8 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:21:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [10.10.1.37] ([10.10.1.37]) by exchange.g2switchworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <46647427.4030103@g2switchworks.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:20:55 -0500 From: Scott Marlowe User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Stark CC: Thomas Andrews , Mark Lewis , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Thousands of tables versus on table? References: <1180980943.31471.322.camel@archimedes> <46645DD9.7030805@soliantconsulting.com> <877iqjmro5.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> In-Reply-To: <877iqjmro5.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2007 20:20:56.0322 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB792620:01C7A6E5] X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200706/47 X-Sequence-Number: 25080 Gregory Stark wrote: > "Thomas Andrews" writes: > > >> I guess my real question is, does it ever make sense to create thousands of >> tables like this? >> > > Sometimes. But usually it's not a good idea. > > What you're proposing is basically partitioning, though you may not actually > need to put all the partitions together for your purposes. Partitioning's main > benefit is in the management of the data. You can drop and load partitions in > chunks rather than have to perform large operations on millions of records. > > Postgres doesn't really get any faster by breaking the tables up like that. In > fact it probably gets slower as it has to look up which of the thousands of > tables you want to work with. > That's not entirely true. PostgreSQL can be markedly faster using partitioning as long as you always access it by referencing the partitioning key in the where clause. So, if you partition the table by date, and always reference it with a date in the where clause, it will usually be noticeably faster. OTOH, if you access it without using a where clause that lets it pick partitions, then it will be slower than one big table. So, while this poster might originally think to have one table for each user, resulting in thousands of tables, maybe a compromise where you partition on userid ranges would work out well, and keep each partition table down to some 50-100 thousand rows, with smaller indexes to match.