Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6289FC0F6 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:52:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59572-01 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:51:59 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6D69FBB76 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:52:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5MDq0qx020143; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:52:01 -0700 Message-ID: <467BD44A.80803@commandprompt.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:53:14 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toru SHIMOGAKI CC: Tom Lane , Dan Gorman , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: PITR Backups References: <7E0807EE-B970-4869-A248-B838E42AD9EE@hi5.com> <9761.1182472005@sss.pgh.pa.us> <467B3459.9030808@oss.ntt.co.jp> <467B3DA6.4010005@commandprompt.com> <467B7D24.3040802@oss.ntt.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <467B7D24.3040802@oss.ntt.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200706/535 X-Sequence-Number: 25568 Toru SHIMOGAKI wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >>> - If we don't use hardware level snapshot operation, it takes long time to take >>> a large backup data, and a lot of full-page-written WAL files are made. >> Does it? I have done it with fairly large databases without issue. > > You mean hardware snapshot? Oh goodness no. :) > I know taking a backup using rsync(or tar, cp?) as a > n online backup method is not so a big problem as documented. But it just take a I use rsync with pg_start/stop_backup and it works very well. Even on databases that are TB in size. > long time if we handle a terabyte database. We have to VACUUM and other batch > processes to the large database as well, so we don't want to take a long time > to take a backup... Ahh o.k. that makes sense. The difference here is probably how often we take the snapshot. We take them very often to insure we don't have a ton of logs we have to pull over. Joshua D. Drake > > Regards, > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/