Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB669FCAAD; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:46:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73080-10; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:46:09 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FCA9FCA9C; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:46:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9QGk86X010067; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:46:08 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JQJ00D011J2G800@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from J.K.Shah@Sun.COM) ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:46:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jignesh-shahs-computer.local ([129.150.37.210]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JQJ00DJX2KSXO80@mail-amer.sun.com>; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:46:14 -0400 From: "Jignesh K. Shah" Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 8.3beta1 testing on Solaris In-reply-to: <47220B96.4080009@sun.com> To: "Jignesh K. Shah" Cc: Tom Lane , Josh Berkus , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org, Gregory Stark , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Message-id: <472219D6.6030001@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4720FB72.8060800@sun.com> <871wbi95nb.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> <29721.1193359867@sss.pgh.pa.us> <200710251956.56744.josh@agliodbs.com> <2139.1193369168@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4721ED75.7090607@sun.com> <47220B96.4080009@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200710/303 X-Sequence-Number: 27325 Also to give perspective on the equivalent writes on CLOG I used the following script which runs for 10 sec to track all writes to the clog directory and here is what it came up with... (This is with 500 users running) # cat write.d #!/usr/sbin/dtrace -s syscall::write:entry /execname=="postgres" && dirname(fds[arg0].fi_pathname)=="/export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog"/ { @write[fds[arg0].fi_pathname,arg1] = count(); } tick-10sec { exit(0); } # ./write.d dtrace: script './write.d' matched 2 probes CPU ID FUNCTION:NAME 3 1026 :tick-10sec /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001E -2753028277088 1 # I modified read.d to do a 5sec read # ./read.d dtrace: script './read.d' matched 3 probes CPU ID FUNCTION:NAME 0 1 :BEGIN 0 1027 :tick-5sec /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001F -2753028268896 1 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001F -2753028252512 1 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001F -2753028285280 2 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001F -2753028277088 3 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001F -2753028236128 3 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001E -2753028285280 5 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001E -2753028236128 9 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001E -2753028277088 13 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001E -2753028268896 15 /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/001E -2753028252512 27 # So the ratio of reads vs writes to clog files is pretty huge.. -Jignesh Jignesh K. Shah wrote: > Tom, > > Here is what I did: > > I started aggregating all read information: > > First I also had added group by pid (arg0,arg1, pid) and the counts > were all coming as 1 > > Then I just grouped by filename and location (arg0,arg1 of reads) and > the counts came back as > > # cat read.d > #!/usr/sbin/dtrace -s > syscall::read:entry > /execname=="postgres"/ > { > @read[fds[arg0].fi_pathname, arg1] = count(); > } > > > # ./read.d > dtrace: script './read.d' matched 1 probe > ^C > > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0014 > -2753028293472 1 > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0014 > -2753028277088 1 > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0015 > -2753028244320 2 > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0015 > -2753028268896 14 > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0015 > -2753028260704 25 > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0015 > -2753028252512 27 > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0015 > -2753028277088 28 > /export/home0/igen/pgdata/pg_clog/0015 > -2753028293472 37 > > > FYI I pressed ctrl-c within like less than a second > > So to me this seems that multiple processes are reading the same page > from different pids. (This was with about 600 suers active. > > Aparently we do have a problem that we are reading the same buffer > address again. (Same as not being cached anywhere or not finding it > in cache anywhere). > > I reran lock wait script on couple of processes and did not see > CLogControlFileLock as a problem.. > > # ./83_lwlock_wait.d 14341 > > Lock Id Mode Count > WALInsertLock Exclusive 1 > ProcArrayLock Exclusive 16 > > Lock Id Combined Time (ns) > WALInsertLock 383109 > ProcArrayLock 198866236 > > # ./83_lwlock_wait.d 14607 > > Lock Id Mode Count > WALInsertLock Exclusive 2 > ProcArrayLock Exclusive 15 > > Lock Id Combined Time (ns) > WALInsertLock 55243 > ProcArrayLock 69700140 > > # > > What will help you find out why it is reading the same page again? > > > -Jignesh > > > > Jignesh K. Shah wrote: >> I agree with Tom.. somehow I think increasing NUM_CLOG_BUFFERS is >> just avoiding the symptom to a later value.. I promise to look more >> into it before making any recommendations to increase NUM_CLOG_BUFFERs. >> >> >> Because though "iGen" showed improvements in that area by increasing >> num_clog_buffers , EAStress had shown no improvements.. Plus the >> reason I think this is not the problem in 8.3beta1 since the Lock >> Output clearly does not show CLOGControlFile as to be the issue which >> I had seen in earlier case. So I dont think that increasing >> NUM_CLOG_BUFFERS will change thing here. >> >> Now I dont understand the code pretty well yet I see three hotspots >> and not sure if they are related to each other >> * ProcArrayLock waits - causing Waits as reported by >> 83_lockwait.d script >> * SimpleLRUReadPage - causing read IOs as reported by >> iostat/rsnoop.d >> * GetSnapshotData - causing CPU utilization as reported by hotuser >> >> But I will shut up and do more testing. >> >> Regards, >> Jignesh >> >> >> >> Tom Lane wrote: >>> Josh Berkus writes: >>> >>>> Actually, 32 made a significant difference as I recall ... do you >>>> still have the figures for that, Jignesh? >>>> >>> >>> I'd want to see a new set of test runs backing up any call for a change >>> in NUM_CLOG_BUFFERS --- we've changed enough stuff around this area >>> that >>> benchmarks using code from a few months back shouldn't carry a lot of >>> weight. >>> >>> regards, tom lane >>> >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings