Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1626A2E38F7 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:40:15 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65361-10 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:40:05 -0400 (AST) Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075602E36DF for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:40:04 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.226] (or-69-34-217-90.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.217.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBKGdpUP023799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:39:51 -0800 Message-ID: <476A9ADF.5030101@commandprompt.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:39:59 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Roberts, Jon" CC: "'Trevor Talbot'" , Kris Jurka , Merlin Moncure , "Jonah H. Harris" , Bill Moran , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: viewing source code References: <1A6E6D554222284AB25ABE3229A92762112A33@nrtexcus702.int.asurion.com> In-Reply-To: <1A6E6D554222284AB25ABE3229A92762112A33@nrtexcus702.int.asurion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200712/310 X-Sequence-Number: 28126 Roberts, Jon wrote: > > > This really is a needed feature to make PostgreSQL more attractive to > businesses. A more robust security model that better follows commercial > products is needed for adoption. > I would argue that commercial products need to get a clue and stop playing bondage with their users to help stop their imminent and frankly obvious downfall from the Open Source competition. This "feature" as it is called can be developed externally and has zero reason to exist within PostgreSQL. If the feature has the level of demand that people think that it does, then the external project will be very successful and that's cool. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake