Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8660764FCF3 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:46:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04224-05 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:46:25 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: delayed 00:17:16.20108 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CE164FCC4 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:46:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.109.80]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m89MT7Je004268 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:29:07 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K6Y00K0187B1Y00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from J.K.Shah@Sun.COM) for pgsql-general@postgresql.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:29:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([76.19.46.33]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K6Y002OS94D1H00@mail-amer.sun.com>; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:28:54 -0400 From: "Jignesh K. Shah" Subject: Re: PostgreSQL TPC-H test result? In-reply-to: To: Greg Smith Cc: Amber , pgsql-general Message-id: <48C6F8A6.6070308@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200809/367 X-Sequence-Number: 137374 Greg Smith wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Amber wrote: > >> I read something from >> http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/SQL/Benchmark/TPCH/index.html >> saying that PostgreSQL can't give the correct result of the some >> TPC-H queries > > Jignesh Shah at Sun ran into that same problem. It's mentioned > briefly in his presentation at > http://blogs.sun.com/jkshah/entry/postgresql_east_2008_talk_postgresql > on pages 26 and 27. 5 of the 22 reference TCP-H queries (4, 5, 6, 10, > 14) returned zero rows immediately for his tests. Looks like the > MonetDB crew is saying it does that on queries 4,5,6,10,12,14,15 and > that 20 takes too long to run to generate a result. Maybe 12/15/20 > were fixed by changes in 8.3, or perhaps there were subtle errors > there that Jignesh didn't catch--it's not like he did a formal > submission run, was just kicking the tires. I suspect the difference > on 20 was that his hardware and tuning was much better, so it probably > did execute fast enough. > > While some of the MonetDB bashing in this thread was unwarranted, it > is quite inappropriate that they published performance results here. > Would be nice if someone in the community were to grab ahold of the > TPC-H problems and try to shake them out. > Hmm This is the second time MonetDB has published PostgreSQL numbers. I think I will try to spend few days on TPC-H again on a much smaller scale (to match what MonetDB used) and start discussions on solving the problem.. Keep tuned. Regards, Jignesh