Received: from localhost (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC899F997E for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:59:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86476-01 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:59:15 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from beaver.fastcrypt.com (beaver.fastcrypt.com [64.7.141.17]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F059F98F7 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:59:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (dcdsl.ebox.com [64.7.143.116]) by beaver.fastcrypt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2431580693; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:16:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <46BB6F3D.6090608@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4A971E01-CDF8-4EA0-AC90-B1CDD968DF48@fastcrypt.com> Cc: "Merlin Moncure" , "Pgsql performance" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dave Cramer Subject: Re: Dell Hardware Recommendations Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:59:26 -0400 To: Vivek Khera X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/149 X-Sequence-Number: 26279 On 13-Aug-07, at 9:50 AM, Vivek Khera wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Merlin Moncure wrote: > >> I'm not so sure I agree. They are using LSI firmware now (and so is >> everyone else). The servers are well built (highly subjective, I >> admit) and configurable. I have had some bad experiences with IBM >> gear (adaptec controller though), and white box parts 3ware, etc. I >> can tell you that dell got us the storage and the server in record >> time >> >> do agree on adaptec however > > Ok, perhaps you got luckier... I have two PowerVault 220 rack > mounts with U320 SCSI drives in them. With an LSI 320-2X > controller, it *refuses* to recognize some of the drives (channel 1 > on either array). Dell blames LSI, LSI blames dell's backplane. > This is consistent across multiple controllers we tried, and two > different Dell disk arrays. Dropping the SCSI speed to 160 is the > only way to make them work. I tend to believe LSI here. > This is the crux of the argument here. Perc/5 is a dell trademark. They can ship any hardware they want and call it a Perc/5. Dave > The Adaptec 2230SLP controller recognizes the arrays fine, but > tends to "drop" devices at inopportune moments. Re-seating dropped > devices starts a rebuild, but the speed is recognized as "1" and > the rebuild takes two lifetimes to complete unless you insert a > reboot of the system in there. Totally unacceptable. Again, > dropping the scsi rate to 160 seems to make it more stable. > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org