Received: from maia.hub.org (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D47632693 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:11:58 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19365-05 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:11:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BEA6327C9 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:11:46 -0400 (AST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEANbzc0tUXebq/2dsb2JhbACbAHS/c4RWBA Received: from relay07.plus.net ([84.93.230.234]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 11 Feb 2010 20:11:38 +0000 Received: from [80.229.150.39] (helo=pd600.barnhouse) by relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1NffNy-0004rq-F7; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:11:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.132] (unknown [192.168.0.132]) by pd600.barnhouse (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D57F3A276E; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:12:51 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4B74647A.1040002@mansionfamily.plus.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:11:38 +0000 From: James Mansion User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wakeling CC: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Dell PERC H700/H800 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Plusnet-Relay: d742328d90c931244148eea1eeddbe25 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.669 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=AWL=-0.929, BAYES_20=-0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201002/193 X-Sequence-Number: 37614 Matthew Wakeling wrote: > > Just a heads up - apparently the more recent Dell RAID controllers > will no longer recognise hard discs that weren't sold through Dell. > > http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/02/10/dell_perc_11th_gen_qualified_hdds_only/ > > > As one of the comments points out, that kind of makes them no longer > SATA or SAS compatible, and they shouldn't be allowed to use those > acronyms any more. > > Matthew > I think that's potentially FUD. Its all about 'Dell qualified drives'. I can't see anything that suggests that Dell will OEM drives and somehow tag them so that the drive must have come from them. Of course they are big enough that they could have special BIOS I guess, but I read it that the drive types (and presumably revisions thereof) had to be recognised by the controller from a list, which presumably can be reflashed, which is not quite saying that if some WD enterprise drive model is 'qualified' then you have to buy it from Dell.. Do you have any further detail?