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* Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
@ 2010-02-12 13:35 lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 15:05 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: lionel duboeuf @ 2010-02-12 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

Some informations:
The following problem has been detected on
   Postgresql 8.3 and 8.4. on System linux or windows
   Default AutoVacuum daemon working
   One pg_dump every day
This happens sometimes and i don't see what can be the cause.
A manual Vacuum Analyse repair that problem.

Dear you all,

Hope someone would help me understand why only changing a where clause 
value attribute will have a big impact on query plan and lead to almost 
unending query.
regards

lionel



This is my query:

select element2_.element_seqnum as col_0_0_,
element1_.element_seqnum as col_1_0_,
 link0_.link_rank_in_bunch as col_2_0_,
  element2_.element_state as col_3_0_
   from public.link link0_
   inner join public.element element1_ on 
link0_.element_target=element1_.element_seqnum
    inner join public.user_element users3_ on 
element1_.element_seqnum=users3_.element_seqnum
    inner join public.user user4_ on users3_.user_seqnum=user4_.user_seqnum
     inner join public.element_block blocks7_ on 
element1_.element_seqnum=blocks7_.element_seqnum
     inner join public.block block8_ on 
blocks7_.block_seqnum=block8_.block_seqnum

     inner join public.element element2_ on 
link0_.element_source=element2_.element_seqnum
      inner join public.user_element users5_ on 
element2_.element_seqnum=users5_.element_seqnum
       inner join public.user user6_ on 
users5_.user_seqnum=user6_.user_seqnum
        inner join public.element_block blocks9_ on 
element2_.element_seqnum=blocks9_.element_seqnum
        inner join public.block block10_ on 
blocks9_.block_seqnum=block10_.block_seqnum
        where block10_.block_seqnum=5
         and block8_.block_seqnum=5
         and user6_.user_seqnum=XX
         and (link0_.link_sup_date is null)
          and user4_.user_seqnum=XX




-------------------------------------------------------

This one works well: Query Plan for that user "2" 
("user4_.user_seqnum=2" and "user6_.user_seqnum=2 ") will be:

Nested Loop  (cost=36.33..5932.28 rows=1 width=16)
 ->  Nested Loop  (cost=36.33..5926.38 rows=1 width=20)
       ->  Nested Loop  (cost=36.33..5925.23 rows=1 width=24)
             Join Filter: (link0_.element_source = blocks9_.element_seqnum)
             ->  Index Scan using fki_element_block_block on 
element_block blocks9_  (cost=0.00..8.29 rows=1 width=8)
                   Index Cond: (block_seqnum = 5)
             ->  Nested Loop  (cost=36.33..5916.64 rows=24 width=28)
                   ->  Nested Loop  (cost=36.33..5883.29 rows=4 width=40)
                         ->  Seq Scan on "user" user4_  (cost=0.00..5.89 
rows=1 width=4)
                               Filter: (user_seqnum = 2)
                         ->  Nested Loop  (cost=36.33..5877.36 rows=4 
width=36)
                               ->  Nested Loop  (cost=36.33..5860.81 
rows=4 width=28)
                                     ->  Nested Loop  
(cost=36.33..5835.59 rows=6 width=20)
                                           ->  Nested Loop  
(cost=0.00..17.76 rows=1 width=8)
                                                 ->  Nested Loop  
(cost=0.00..16.61 rows=1 width=12)
                                                       ->  Index Scan 
using fki_element_block_block on element_block blocks7_  
(cost=0.00..8.29 rows=1 width=8)
                                                             Index Cond: 
(block_seqnum = 5)
                                                       ->  Index Scan 
using pk_element on element element1_  (cost=0.00..8.31 rows=1 width=4)
                                                             Index Cond: 
(element1_.element_seqnum = blocks7_.element_seqnum)
                                                 ->  Seq Scan on block 
block8_  (cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 width=4)
                                                       Filter: 
(block8_.block_seqnum = 5)
                                           ->  Bitmap Heap Scan on link 
link0_  (cost=36.33..5792.21 rows=2050 width=12)
                                                 Recheck Cond: 
(link0_.element_target = element1_.element_seqnum)
                                                 Filter: 
(link0_.link_sup_date IS NULL)
                                                 ->  Bitmap Index Scan 
on element_target_fk  (cost=0.00..35.82 rows=2050 width=0)
                                                       Index Cond: 
(link0_.element_target = element1_.element_seqnum)
                                     ->  Index Scan using 
pk_user_element on user_element users5_  (cost=0.00..4.19 rows=1 width=8)
                                           Index Cond: 
((users5_.user_seqnum = 2) AND (users5_.element_seqnum = 
link0_.element_source))
                               ->  Index Scan using pk_element on 
element element2_  (cost=0.00..4.12 rows=1 width=8)
                                     Index Cond: 
(element2_.element_seqnum = link0_.element_source)
                   ->  Index Scan using pk_user_element on user_element 
users3_  (cost=0.00..8.33 rows=1 width=8)
                         Index Cond: ((users3_.user_seqnum = 2) AND 
(users3_.element_seqnum = link0_.element_target))
       ->  Seq Scan on block block10_  (cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 width=4)
             Filter: (block10_.block_seqnum = 5)
 ->  Seq Scan on "user" user6_  (cost=0.00..5.89 rows=1 width=4)
       Filter: (user6_.user_seqnum = 2)
*
This one is very very very long (was still in process 10 mins later with 
100%cpu*): Query Plan for user "10" ("user4_.user_seqnum=10" and 
"user6_.user_seqnum=10 ") will be:


QUERY PLAN
Nested Loop  (cost=54.34..1490.62 rows=1 width=16)
 ->  Nested Loop  (cost=54.34..1484.72 rows=1 width=20)
       Join Filter: (link0_.element_source = blocks9_.element_seqnum)
       ->  Nested Loop  (cost=54.34..1476.41 rows=1 width=32)
             ->  Nested Loop  (cost=54.34..1475.26 rows=1 width=28)
                   ->  Nested Loop  (cost=54.34..1466.95 rows=1 width=36)
                         ->  Nested Loop  (cost=54.34..1461.05 rows=1 
width=40)
                               ->  Nested Loop  (cost=54.34..1459.90 
rows=1 width=44)
                                     ->  Nested Loop  
(cost=54.34..1455.52 rows=1 width=36)
                                           ->  Nested Loop  
(cost=13.15..1410.30 rows=1 width=24)
                                                 ->  Nested Loop  
(cost=0.00..16.63 rows=1 width=16)
                                                       ->  Index Scan 
using fki_element_block_block on element_block blocks7_  
(cost=0.00..8.29 rows=1 width=8)
                                                             Index Cond: 
(block_seqnum = 5)
                                                       ->  Index Scan 
using pk_user_element on user_element users3_  (cost=0.00..8.33 rows=1 
width=8)
                                                             Index Cond: 
((users3_.user_seqnum = 10) AND (users3_.element_seqnum = 
blocks7_.element_seqnum))
                                                 ->  Bitmap Heap Scan on 
user_element users5_  (cost=13.15..1387.40 rows=627 width=8)
                                                       Recheck Cond: 
(users5_.user_seqnum = 10)
                                                       ->  Bitmap Index 
Scan on fki_user_element_user  (cost=0.00..12.99 rows=627 width=0)
                                                             Index Cond: 
(users5_.user_seqnum = 10)
                                           ->  Bitmap Heap Scan on link 
link0_  (cost=41.19..45.20 rows=1 width=12)
                                                 Recheck Cond: 
((link0_.element_source = users5_.element_seqnum) AND 
(link0_.element_target = users3_.element_seqnum))
                                                 Filter: 
(link0_.link_sup_date IS NULL)
                                                 ->  BitmapAnd  
(cost=41.19..41.19 rows=1 width=0)
                                                       ->  Bitmap Index 
Scan on element_source_fk  (cost=0.00..4.60 rows=21 width=0)
                                                             Index Cond: 
(link0_.element_source = users5_.element_seqnum)
                                                       ->  Bitmap Index 
Scan on element_target_fk  (cost=0.00..35.82 rows=2050 width=0)
                                                             Index Cond: 
(link0_.element_target = users3_.element_seqnum)
                                     ->  Index Scan using pk_element on 
element element2_  (cost=0.00..4.37 rows=1 width=8)
                                           Index Cond: 
(element2_.element_seqnum = link0_.element_source)
                               ->  Seq Scan on block block8_  
(cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 width=4)
                                     Filter: (block8_.block_seqnum = 5)
                         ->  Seq Scan on "user" user4_  (cost=0.00..5.89 
rows=1 width=4)
                               Filter: (user4_.user_seqnum = 10)
                   ->  Index Scan using pk_element on element element1_  
(cost=0.00..8.31 rows=1 width=4)
                         Index Cond: (element1_.element_seqnum = 
link0_.element_target)
             ->  Seq Scan on block block10_  (cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 
width=4)
                   Filter: (block10_.block_seqnum = 5)
       ->  Index Scan using fki_element_block_block on element_block 
blocks9_  (cost=0.00..8.29 rows=1 width=8)
             Index Cond: (blocks9_.block_seqnum = 5)
 ->  Seq Scan on "user" user6_  (cost=0.00..5.89 rows=1 width=4)
       Filter: (user6_.user_seqnum = 10)





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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
  2010-02-12 13:35 Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
@ 2010-02-12 15:05 ` Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-12 20:32   ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Kevin Grittner @ 2010-02-12 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>; pgsql-performance

lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com> wrote:
 
> Some informations:
> The following problem has been detected on
>    Postgresql 8.3 and 8.4. on System linux or windows
>    Default AutoVacuum daemon working
>    One pg_dump every day
> This happens sometimes and i don't see what can be the cause.
> A manual Vacuum Analyse repair that problem.
 
It's good to know that the issue has been observed in more than one
release or on more than one platform, but it's also useful to get a
bit more information about one particular occurrence.  Please read
this:
 
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/SlowQueryQuestions
 
In particular, knowing such things as your postgresql.conf settings,
the disk configuration, how much RAM the machine has, etc. can allow
us to provide more useful advice.
 
Please run these as EXPLAIN ANALYZE (or at least whatever you can
get to finish that way) instead of just EXPLAIN.  If you can let the
slow one run through EXPLAIN ANALYZE overnight or on a test machine
so that it can complete, it will give us a lot more with which to
work.  Please attach wide output (like that from EXPLAIN) as a text
attachment, to prevent wrapping which makes it hard to read.
 
-Kevin



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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value
  2010-02-12 13:35 Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 15:05 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
@ 2010-02-12 20:32   ` lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 20:59     ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: lionel duboeuf @ 2010-02-12 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ; +Cc: pgsql-performance

Thanks kevin for your answer. Here is some additionnal informations 
attached as files.


regards.
Lionel

Kevin Grittner a écrit :
> lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com> wrote:
>  
>   
>> Some informations:
>> The following problem has been detected on
>>    Postgresql 8.3 and 8.4. on System linux or windows
>>    Default AutoVacuum daemon working
>>    One pg_dump every day
>> This happens sometimes and i don't see what can be the cause.
>> A manual Vacuum Analyse repair that problem.
>>     
>  
> It's good to know that the issue has been observed in more than one
> release or on more than one platform, but it's also useful to get a
> bit more information about one particular occurrence.  Please read
> this:
>  
> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/SlowQueryQuestions
>  
> In particular, knowing such things as your postgresql.conf settings,
> the disk configuration, how much RAM the machine has, etc. can allow
> us to provide more useful advice.
>  
> Please run these as EXPLAIN ANALYZE (or at least whatever you can
> get to finish that way) instead of just EXPLAIN.  If you can let the
> slow one run through EXPLAIN ANALYZE overnight or on a test machine
> so that it can complete, it will give us a lot more with which to
> work.  Please attach wide output (like that from EXPLAIN) as a text
> attachment, to prevent wrapping which makes it hard to read.
>  
> -Kevin
>   

Attachments:

cpuinfo (text/plain, 1.4K) download processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz stepping : 11 cpu MHz : 2201.000 cache size : 4096 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm ida tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority bogomips : 4389.59 clflush size : 64 power management: processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz stepping : 11 cpu MHz : 2201.000 cache size : 4096 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 1 initial apicid : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm ida tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority bogomips : 4388.96 clflush size : 64 power management:
explain_analyse.txt (text/plain, 5.1K) download QUERY PLAN Nested Loop (cost=58.71..1512.50 rows=1 width=16) (actual time=1.849..535681.136 rows=14 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=58.71..1506.60 rows=1 width=20) (actual time=1.839..535680.377 rows=14 loops=1) Join Filter: (link0_.element_source = blocks9_.element_seqnum) -> Nested Loop (cost=58.71..1498.29 rows=1 width=32) (actual time=1.819..535337.910 rows=6534 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=58.71..1497.14 rows=1 width=28) (actual time=1.811..535246.825 rows=6534 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=58.71..1488.83 rows=1 width=36) (actual time=1.800..535160.718 rows=6534 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=58.71..1484.40 rows=1 width=28) (actual time=1.772..535042.549 rows=6534 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=13.20..1434.87 rows=1 width=16) (actual time=1.398..8327.567 rows=122850 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=13.20..1428.97 rows=1 width=20) (actual time=1.387..1911.520 rows=122850 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=13.20..1427.83 rows=1 width=24) (actual time=1.374..517.662 rows=122850 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..16.63 rows=1 width=16) (actual time=0.085..0.409 rows=15 loops=1) -> Index Scan using fki_element_block_block on element_block blocks7_ (cost=0.00..8.30 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.045..0.082 rows=15 loops=1) Index Cond: (block_seqnum = 5) -> Index Scan using pk_user_element on user_element users3_ (cost=0.00..8.33 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.012..0.015 rows=1 loops=15) Index Cond: ((users3_.user_seqnum = 10) AND (users3_.element_seqnum = blocks7_.element_seqnum)) -> Bitmap Heap Scan on user_element users5_ (cost=13.20..1404.85 rows=634 width=8) (actual time=1.091..12.478 rows=8190 loops=15) Recheck Cond: (users5_.user_seqnum = 10) -> Bitmap Index Scan on fki_user_element_user (cost=0.00..13.05 rows=634 width=0) (actual time=1.062..1.062 rows=8194 loops=15) Index Cond: (users5_.user_seqnum = 10) -> Seq Scan on block block8_ (cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.004..0.005 rows=1 loops=122850) Filter: (block8_.block_seqnum = 5) -> Seq Scan on "user" user4_ (cost=0.00..5.89 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.005..0.047 rows=1 loops=122850) Filter: (user4_.user_seqnum = 10) -> Bitmap Heap Scan on link link0_ (cost=45.50..49.51 rows=1 width=12) (actual time=4.283..4.283 rows=0 loops=122850) Recheck Cond: ((link0_.element_source = users5_.element_seqnum) AND (link0_.element_target = users3_.element_seqnum)) Filter: (link0_.link_sup_date IS NULL) -> BitmapAnd (cost=45.50..45.50 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=4.280..4.280 rows=0 loops=122850) -> Bitmap Index Scan on element_source_fk (cost=0.00..4.61 rows=21 width=0) (actual time=0.007..0.007 rows=6 loops=122850) Index Cond: (link0_.element_source = users5_.element_seqnum) -> Bitmap Index Scan on element_target_fk (cost=0.00..40.12 rows=2089 width=0) (actual time=4.719..4.719 rows=33814 loops=110880) Index Cond: (link0_.element_target = users3_.element_seqnum) -> Index Scan using pk_element on element element2_ (cost=0.00..4.41 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.009..0.011 rows=1 loops=6534) Index Cond: (element2_.element_seqnum = link0_.element_source) -> Index Scan using pk_element on element element1_ (cost=0.00..8.31 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.006..0.007 rows=1 loops=6534) Index Cond: (element1_.element_seqnum = link0_.element_target) -> Seq Scan on block block10_ (cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.005..0.007 rows=1 loops=6534) Filter: (block10_.block_seqnum = 5) -> Index Scan using fki_element_block_block on element_block blocks9_ (cost=0.00..8.30 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.007..0.030 rows=15 loops=6534) Index Cond: (blocks9_.block_seqnum = 5) -> Seq Scan on "user" user6_ (cost=0.00..5.89 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.006..0.048 rows=1 loops=14) Filter: (user6_.user_seqnum = 10) Total runtime: 535681.414 ms
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postgresql.conf (text/plain, 16.3K) download # ----------------------------- # PostgreSQL configuration file # ----------------------------- # # This file consists of lines of the form: # # name = value # # (The "=" is optional.) Whitespace may be used. Comments are introduced with # "#" anywhere on a line. The complete list of parameter names and allowed # values can be found in the PostgreSQL documentation. # # The commented-out settings shown in this file represent the default values. # Re-commenting a setting is NOT sufficient to revert it to the default value; # you need to reload the server. # # This file is read on server startup and when the server receives a SIGHUP # signal. If you edit the file on a running system, you have to SIGHUP the # server for the changes to take effect, or use "pg_ctl reload". Some # parameters, which are marked below, require a server shutdown and restart to # take effect. # # Any parameter can also be given as a command-line option to the server, e.g., # "postgres -c log_connections=on". Some paramters can be changed at run time # with the "SET" SQL command. # # Memory units: kB = kilobytes MB = megabytes GB = gigabytes # Time units: ms = milliseconds s = seconds min = minutes h = hours d = days #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # FILE LOCATIONS #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # The default values of these variables are driven from the -D command-line # option or PGDATA environment variable, represented here as ConfigDir. data_directory = '/var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main' # use data in another directory # (change requires restart) hba_file = '/etc/postgresql/8.3/main/pg_hba.conf' # host-based authentication file # (change requires restart) ident_file = '/etc/postgresql/8.3/main/pg_ident.conf' # ident configuration file # (change requires restart) # If external_pid_file is not explicitly set, no extra PID file is written. external_pid_file = '/var/run/postgresql/8.3-main.pid' # write an extra PID file # (change requires restart) #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # CONNECTIONS AND AUTHENTICATION #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - Connection Settings - #listen_addresses = 'localhost' # what IP address(es) to listen on; # comma-separated list of addresses; # defaults to 'localhost', '*' = all # (change requires restart) port = 5432 # (change requires restart) max_connections = 100 # (change requires restart) # Note: Increasing max_connections costs ~400 bytes of shared memory per # connection slot, plus lock space (see max_locks_per_transaction). You might # also need to raise shared_buffers to support more connections. #superuser_reserved_connections = 3 # (change requires restart) unix_socket_directory = '/var/run/postgresql' # (change requires restart) #unix_socket_group = '' # (change requires restart) #unix_socket_permissions = 0777 # begin with 0 to use octal notation # (change requires restart) #bonjour_name = '' # defaults to the computer name # (change requires restart) # - Security and Authentication - #authentication_timeout = 1min # 1s-600s ssl = true # (change requires restart) #ssl_ciphers = 'ALL:!ADH:!LOW:!EXP:!MD5:@STRENGTH' # allowed SSL ciphers # (change requires restart) #password_encryption = on #db_user_namespace = off # Kerberos and GSSAPI #krb_server_keyfile = '' # (change requires restart) #krb_srvname = 'postgres' # (change requires restart, Kerberos only) #krb_server_hostname = '' # empty string matches any keytab entry # (change requires restart, Kerberos only) #krb_caseins_users = off # (change requires restart) #krb_realm = '' # (change requires restart) # - TCP Keepalives - # see "man 7 tcp" for details #tcp_keepalives_idle = 0 # TCP_KEEPIDLE, in seconds; 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Currently, there are # Default # Australia # India # You can create your own file in # share/timezonesets/. #extra_float_digits = 0 # min -15, max 2 #client_encoding = sql_ascii # actually, defaults to database # encoding # These settings are initialized by initdb, but they can be changed. lc_messages = 'fr_FR.UTF-8' # locale for system error message # strings lc_monetary = 'fr_FR.UTF-8' # locale for monetary formatting lc_numeric = 'fr_FR.UTF-8' # locale for number formatting lc_time = 'fr_FR.UTF-8' # locale for time formatting # default configuration for text search default_text_search_config = 'pg_catalog.french' # - Other Defaults - #explain_pretty_print = on #dynamic_library_path = '$libdir' #local_preload_libraries = '' #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # LOCK MANAGEMENT #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #deadlock_timeout = 1s #max_locks_per_transaction = 64 # min 10 # (change requires restart) # Note: Each lock table slot uses ~270 bytes of shared memory, and there are # max_locks_per_transaction * (max_connections + max_prepared_transactions) # lock table slots. #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # VERSION/PLATFORM COMPATIBILITY #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - Previous PostgreSQL Versions - #add_missing_from = off #array_nulls = on #backslash_quote = safe_encoding # on, off, or safe_encoding #default_with_oids = off #escape_string_warning = on #regex_flavor = advanced # advanced, extended, or basic #sql_inheritance = on #standard_conforming_strings = off #synchronize_seqscans = on # - Other Platforms and Clients - #transform_null_equals = off #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # CUSTOMIZED OPTIONS #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #custom_variable_classes = '' # list of custom variable class names
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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
  2010-02-12 13:35 Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 15:05 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-12 20:32   ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
@ 2010-02-12 20:59     ` Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-15 09:52       ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan		 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Kevin Grittner @ 2010-02-12 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com> wrote:
> Thanks kevin for your answer. Here is some additionnal
> informations attached as files.
 
Could you supply an EXPLAIN ANALYZE of the fast plan as an
attachment, for comparison?
 
Anyway, it looks like at least one big problem is the bad estimate
on how many rows will be generated by joining to the users5_ table:

> (cost=13.20..1427.83 rows=1 width=24)
> (actual time=1.374..517.662 rows=122850 loops=1)

If it had expected 122850 rows to qualify for that join, it probably
would have picked a different plan.
 
I just reread your original email, and I'm not sure I understand
what you meant regarding VACUUM ANALYZE.  If you run that right
beforehand, do you still get the slow plan for user 10?
 
-Kevin



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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan		 when changing where clause value
  2010-02-12 13:35 Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 15:05 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-12 20:32   ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 20:59     ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
@ 2010-02-15 09:52       ` lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-15 17:24         ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: lionel duboeuf @ 2010-02-15 09:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

See as attachment the "correct" query plan for an other 'user'.
I confirm by executing manual "VACUUM ANALYZE" that the problem is solved.
But what i don't understand is that i would expect autovacuum to do the job.

Lionel



Kevin Grittner a écrit :
> lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com> wrote:
>   
>> Thanks kevin for your answer. Here is some additionnal
>> informations attached as files.
>>     
>  
> Could you supply an EXPLAIN ANALYZE of the fast plan as an
> attachment, for comparison?
>  
> Anyway, it looks like at least one big problem is the bad estimate
> on how many rows will be generated by joining to the users5_ table:
>
>   
>> (cost=13.20..1427.83 rows=1 width=24)
>> (actual time=1.374..517.662 rows=122850 loops=1)
>>     
>
> If it had expected 122850 rows to qualify for that join, it probably
> would have picked a different plan.
>  
> I just reread your original email, and I'm not sure I understand
> what you meant regarding VACUUM ANALYZE.  If you run that right
> beforehand, do you still get the slow plan for user 10?
>  
> -Kevin

Attachments:

explain_analyse_ok.txt (text/plain, 5.8K) download QUERY PLAN Nested Loop (cost=40145.11..87205.30 rows=1836 width=16) (actual time=4675.927..8731.066 rows=14 loops=1) -> Seq Scan on "user" user6_ (cost=0.00..5.89 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.021..0.070 rows=1 loops=1) Filter: (user_seqnum = 2) -> Nested Loop (cost=40145.11..87181.05 rows=1836 width=20) (actual time=4675.899..8730.951 rows=14 loops=1) -> Seq Scan on block block10_ (cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.005..0.013 rows=1 loops=1) Filter: (block_seqnum = 5) -> Hash Join (cost=40145.11..87161.55 rows=1836 width=24) (actual time=4675.889..8730.897 rows=14 loops=1) Hash Cond: (link0_.element_source = blocks9_.element_seqnum) -> Hash Join (cost=38355.16..84432.84 rows=81814 width=28) (actual time=1959.785..8659.972 rows=54481 loops=1) Hash Cond: (link0_.element_source = element2_.element_seqnum) -> Hash Join (cost=15293.09..59268.67 rows=100436 width=12) (actual time=213.249..6178.980 rows=357563 loops=1) Hash Cond: (link0_.element_target = element1_.element_seqnum) -> Seq Scan on link link0_ (cost=0.00..36544.07 rows=1968922 width=12) (actual time=0.017..2750.650 rows=1968833 loops=1) Filter: (link_sup_date IS NULL) -> Hash (cost=15280.27..15280.27 rows=1025 width=12) (actual time=212.858..212.858 rows=15 loops=1) -> Nested Loop (cost=2881.38..15280.27 rows=1025 width=12) (actual time=9.566..212.823 rows=15 loops=1) -> Seq Scan on "user" user4_ (cost=0.00..5.89 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.012..0.051 rows=1 loops=1) Filter: (user_seqnum = 2) -> Nested Loop (cost=2881.38..15264.14 rows=1025 width=16) (actual time=9.549..212.724 rows=15 loops=1) -> Seq Scan on block block8_ (cost=0.00..1.14 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.004..0.009 rows=1 loops=1) Filter: (block_seqnum = 5) -> Nested Loop (cost=2881.38..15252.75 rows=1025 width=20) (actual time=9.540..212.673 rows=15 loops=1) -> Hash Join (cost=2881.38..6613.08 rows=1434 width=16) (actual time=9.522..212.453 rows=15 loops=1) Hash Cond: (users3_.element_seqnum = blocks7_.element_seqnum) -> Bitmap Heap Scan on user_element users3_ (cost=1091.43..4090.04 rows=63889 width=8) (actual time=9.252..131.240 rows=60568 loops=1) Recheck Cond: (user_seqnum = 2) -> Bitmap Index Scan on fki_user_element_user (cost=0.00..1075.46 rows=63889 width=0) (actual time=9.017..9.017 rows=60568 loops=1) Index Cond: (user_seqnum = 2) -> Hash (cost=1705.72..1705.72 rows=6738 width=8) (actual time=0.079..0.079 rows=15 loops=1) -> Bitmap Heap Scan on element_block blocks7_ (cost=116.50..1705.72 rows=6738 width=8) (actual time=0.032..0.053 rows=15 loops=1) Recheck Cond: (block_seqnum = 5) -> Bitmap Index Scan on fki_element_block_block (cost=0.00..114.81 rows=6738 width=0) (actual time=0.025..0.025 rows=15 loops=1) Index Cond: (block_seqnum = 5) -> Index Scan using pk_element on element element1_ (cost=0.00..6.01 rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.007..0.008 rows=1 loops=15) Index Cond: (element1_.element_seqnum = users3_.element_seqnum) -> Hash (cost=21951.46..21951.46 rows=63889 width=16) (actual time=1746.309..1746.309 rows=60568 loops=1) -> Hash Join (cost=15534.07..21951.46 rows=63889 width=16) (actual time=1277.246..1653.836 rows=60568 loops=1) Hash Cond: (users5_.element_seqnum = element2_.element_seqnum) -> Bitmap Heap Scan on user_element users5_ (cost=1091.43..4090.04 rows=63889 width=8) (actual time=7.775..87.724 rows=60568 loops=1) Recheck Cond: (user_seqnum = 2) -> Bitmap Index Scan on fki_user_element_user (cost=0.00..1075.46 rows=63889 width=0) (actual time=7.565..7.565 rows=60568 loops=1) Index Cond: (user_seqnum = 2) -> Hash (cost=7552.95..7552.95 rows=419895 width=8) (actual time=1269.211..1269.211 rows=419895 loops=1) -> Seq Scan on element element2_ (cost=0.00..7552.95 rows=419895 width=8) (actual time=0.031..640.484 rows=419895 loops=1) -> Hash (cost=1705.72..1705.72 rows=6738 width=8) (actual time=0.081..0.081 rows=15 loops=1) -> Bitmap Heap Scan on element_block blocks9_ (cost=116.50..1705.72 rows=6738 width=8) (actual time=0.034..0.058 rows=15 loops=1) Recheck Cond: (block_seqnum = 5) -> Bitmap Index Scan on fki_element_block_block (cost=0.00..114.81 rows=6738 width=0) (actual time=0.028..0.028 rows=15 loops=1) Index Cond: (block_seqnum = 5) Total runtime: 8731.494 ms
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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
  2010-02-12 13:35 Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 15:05 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-12 20:32   ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-12 20:59     ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-15 09:52       ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan		 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
@ 2010-02-15 17:24         ` Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Scott Marlowe @ 2010-02-15 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>; +Cc: pgsql-performance

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:52 AM, lionel duboeuf
<lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com> wrote:
> See as attachment the "correct" query plan for an other 'user'.
> I confirm by executing manual "VACUUM ANALYZE" that the problem is solved.
> But what i don't understand is that i would expect autovacuum to do the job.

There are two operations here.  Vacuum, which reclaims lost space, and
analyze which analyzes your data and stores histograms to be used when
building queries, to determine how many rows are likely to be returned
by each part of the plan.

The autovac daemon runs both vacuums and analyzes, often independently
of each other, when needed, based on threshold settings.  By running
autovac your db would get analyzed when necessary and would then have
up to date statistics when queries were run after that.



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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
@ 2010-02-15 14:19 Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-16 10:26 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-16 10:26 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Kevin Grittner @ 2010-02-15 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com; pgsql-performance

lionel duboeuf  wrote:
> Kevin Grittner a écrit :
 
>> I just reread your original email, and I'm not sure I understand
>> what you meant regarding VACUUM ANALYZE. If you run that right
>> beforehand, do you still get the slow plan for user 10?
 
> I confirm by executing manual "VACUUM ANALYZE" that the problem is
> solved.  But what i don't understand is that i would expect
> autovacuum to do the job.
 
I think this is the crux of the issue.  Boosting the
default_statistics_target or the statistics target for specific
columns might help, reducing autovacuum_analyze_scale_factor might
help, but I can't help wondering whether you inserted a large number
of rows for user 10 and then ran the query to select user 10 before
autovacuum had time to complete.  Does that seem possible?

-Kevin



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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
  2010-02-15 14:19 Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
@ 2010-02-16 10:26 ` lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: lionel duboeuf @ 2010-02-16 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

Here is my log analysis:
Due to a database recovery task it appears that:

    I stopped postgresql
    I started postgresql (and as default autovacuum daemon)
    I restored the databases (need to restore 4 databases)
    It seems that after database 1 have been restored, autovacumm 
started on it and has been stopped while restoring database 2.
   
    @see log as attached



Here is backup/restore commands i use:

/usr/bin/pg_dump -i -h localhost -U postgres -F c -b -f  ... x 4 times

sudo -u postgres pg_restore -d 'database1' x 4 times


Does this kind of error can lead to the query problem  ?
If so, what would you suggest me to do to avoid the problem again ?.


Thanks
Lionel

   

Kevin Grittner a écrit :
> lionel duboeuf  wrote:
>   
>> Kevin Grittner a écrit :
>>     
>  
>   
>>> I just reread your original email, and I'm not sure I understand
>>> what you meant regarding VACUUM ANALYZE. If you run that right
>>> beforehand, do you still get the slow plan for user 10?
>>>       
>  
>   
>> I confirm by executing manual "VACUUM ANALYZE" that the problem is
>> solved.  But what i don't understand is that i would expect
>> autovacuum to do the job.
>>     
>  
> I think this is the crux of the issue.  Boosting the
> default_statistics_target or the statistics target for specific
> columns might help, reducing autovacuum_analyze_scale_factor might
> help, but I can't help wondering whether you inserted a large number
> of rows for user 10 and then ran the query to select user 10 before
> autovacuum had time to complete.  Does that seem possible?
>
> -Kevin
>
>   






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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
  2010-02-15 14:19 Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
@ 2010-02-16 10:26 ` lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
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From: lionel duboeuf @ 2010-02-16 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

Here is my log analysis:
Due to a database recovery task it appears that:

    I stopped postgresql
    I started postgresql (and as default autovacuum daemon)
    I restored the databases (need to restore 4 databases)
    It seems that after database 1 have been restored, autovacumm 
started on it and has been stopped while restoring database 2.
   
    @see log as attached



Here is backup/restore commands i use:

/usr/bin/pg_dump -i -h localhost -U postgres -F c -b -f  ... x 4 times

sudo -u postgres pg_restore -d 'database1' x 4 times


Does this kind of error can lead to the query problem  ?
If so, what would you suggest me to do to avoid the problem again ?.


Thanks
Lionel

   

Kevin Grittner a écrit :
> lionel duboeuf  wrote:
>   
>> Kevin Grittner a écrit :
>>     
>  
>   
>>> I just reread your original email, and I'm not sure I understand
>>> what you meant regarding VACUUM ANALYZE. If you run that right
>>> beforehand, do you still get the slow plan for user 10?
>>>       
>  
>   
>> I confirm by executing manual "VACUUM ANALYZE" that the problem is
>> solved.  But what i don't understand is that i would expect
>> autovacuum to do the job.
>>     
>  
> I think this is the crux of the issue.  Boosting the
> default_statistics_target or the statistics target for specific
> columns might help, reducing autovacuum_analyze_scale_factor might
> help, but I can't help wondering whether you inserted a large number
> of rows for user 10 and then ran the query to select user 10 before
> autovacuum had time to complete.  Does that seem possible?
>
> -Kevin
>
>   

Attachments:

log_postgres (text/plain, 3.7K) download 2010-02-10 12:24:25 CET LOG: paquet de démarrage incomplet 2010-02-10 12:24:25 CET LOG: a reçu une demande d'arrêt rapide 2010-02-10 12:24:25 CET LOG: annulation des transactions actives 2010-02-10 12:24:25 CET LOG: arrêt du processus autovacuum 2010-02-10 12:24:25 CET LOG: arrêt en cours 2010-02-10 12:24:25 CET LOG: le système de base de données est arrêté 2010-02-10 12:24:26 CET LOG: n'a pas pu charger le fichier du certificat racine « root.crt » : aucun code d'erreur SSL rapporté 2010-02-10 12:24:26 CET DÉTAIL: Ne vérifiera pas les certificats du client. 2010-02-10 12:24:26 CET LOG: le système de bases de données a été arrêté à 2010-02-10 12:24:25 CET 2010-02-10 12:24:26 CET LOG: le système de bases de données est prêt pour accepter les connexions 2010-02-10 12:24:26 CET LOG: lancement du processus autovacuum 2010-02-10 12:24:26 CET LOG: paquet de démarrage incomplet [checkpoints Warning] 2010-02-10 12:24:34 CET LOG: les points de vérification (checkpoints) arrivent trop fréquemment (toutes les 3 secondes) 2010-02-10 12:24:34 CET ASTUCE : Considèrez l'augmentation du paramètre « checkpoint_segments ». 2010-02-10 12:24:39 CET LOG: les points de vérification (checkpoints) arrivent trop fréquemment (toutes les 5 secondes) 2010-02-10 12:24:39 CET ASTUCE : Considèrez l'augmentation du paramètre « checkpoint_segments ». 2010-02-10 12:24:43 CET LOG: les points de vérification (checkpoints) arrivent trop fréquemment (toutes les 4 secondes) 2010-02-10 12:24:43 CET ASTUCE : Considèrez l'augmentation du paramètre « checkpoint_segments ». 2010-02-10 12:24:47 CET LOG: les points de vérification (checkpoints) arrivent trop fréquemment (toutes les 4 secondes) 2010-02-10 12:24:47 CET ASTUCE : Considèrez l'augmentation du paramètre « checkpoint_segments ». 2010-02-10 12:24:52 CET LOG: les points de vérification (checkpoints) arrivent trop fréquemment (toutes les 5 secondes) 2010-02-10 12:24:52 CET ASTUCE : Considèrez l'augmentation du paramètre « checkpoint_segments ». 2010-02-10 12:24:56 CET LOG: les points de vérification (checkpoints) arrivent trop fréquemment (toutes les 4 secondes) 2010-02-10 12:24:56 CET ASTUCE : Considèrez l'augmentation du paramètre « checkpoint_segments ». 2010-02-10 12:25:01 CET LOG: les points de vérification (checkpoints) arrivent trop fréquemment (toutes les 5 secondes) [database 1 restore] 2010-02-10 12:25:03 CET INFO: ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY créera un index implicite « pk_block » pour la table « block » ... ... 2010-02-10 12:25:13 CET INFO: ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY créera un index implicite « pk_user_panel » pour la table « user_panel » [here is autovacuum error] 2010-02-10 12:25:44 CET ERREUR: annulation de la tâche d'autovacuum 2010-02-10 12:25:44 CET CONTEXTE : ANALYZE automatique de la table « boozterbase.public.translation » 2010-02-10 12:25:45 CET ERREUR: annulation de la tâche d'autovacuum 2010-02-10 12:25:45 CET CONTEXTE : ANALYZE automatique de la table « boozterbase.public.label » 2010-02-10 12:25:48 CET ERREUR: annulation de la tâche d'autovacuum 2010-02-10 12:25:48 CET CONTEXTE : ANALYZE automatique de la table « boozterbase.public.link » [end autovacuum error] [database 2 restore] 2010-02-10 12:25:53 CET INFO: ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY créera un index implicite « Coordinate_pkey » pour la table « coordinate » 2010-02-10 12:25:53 CET INFO: ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY créera un index implicite « compte_mail_pkey » pour la table « mail_account » 2010-02-10 12:25:53 CET INFO: ALTER TABLE / ADD UNIQUE créera un index implicite « person_uid_uc » pour la table « person » ... [nothing to see here]
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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value
@ 2010-02-16 12:45 Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
  2010-02-16 16:39 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Kevin Grittner @ 2010-02-16 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com; pgsql-performance

lionel duboeuf  wrote:
 
> I stopped postgresql
> I started postgresql (and as default autovacuum daemon)
> I restored the databases (need to restore 4 databases)
> It seems that after database 1 have been restored, autovacumm
> started on it and has been stopped while restoring database 2.
 
> Does this kind of error can lead to the query problem ?
 
I believe it can.  I assume you're talking about restoring something
which was dumped by pg_dump or pg_dumpall?  If so, you don't have
statistics right after the restore.  Autovacuum will try to build
them for you, but that will take a while.  There are also a couple
other hidden performance issues after a restore:
 
(1)  None of the hint bits are set, so the first read to each tuple
will cause it to be written again with hint bits, so you will have
mysterious bursts of write activity during read-only queries until
all tuples have been read.
 
(2)  All tuples in the database will have the same, or nearly the
same, xmin (creation transaction number), so at some indeterminate
time in the future, vacuums will trigger for all of your tables at
the same time, probably in the middle of heavy activity.
 
For all of the above reasons, I use a special postgresql.conf,
optimized for bulk loads, to restore from dumps (or to pipe from
pg_dump to psql).  I turn off autovacuum during the restore, and then
do an explicit VACUUM FREEZE ANALYZE before I consider the restore
complete.  Then I restart with a "normal" postgresql.conf file.  Some
might consider this extreme, but it works for me, an prevents the
kind of problems which generated your post.
 
-Kevin




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* Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value
  2010-02-16 12:45 Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan when changing where clause value Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
@ 2010-02-16 16:39 ` lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  2010-02-16 16:47   ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: lionel duboeuf @ 2010-02-16 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

Thank you Kevin and Scott for all the explanations. ;-)

regards
Lionel





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  2010-02-16 16:39 ` Re: Almost infinite query -> Different Query Plan	 when changing where clause value lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
@ 2010-02-16 16:47   ` lionel duboeuf <lionel.duboeuf@boozter.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: lionel duboeuf @ 2010-02-16 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-performance

lionel duboeuf a écrit :
> Thank you Kevin and Scott for all the explanations. ;-)
>
> regards
> Lionel
>
>
>
Sorry for forgetting Jorge also.

regards.
All this ,encourage me to know more about database management.






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