Received: from maia.hub.org (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BB7632BD2 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:03:59 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63103-07 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 01:03:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117CB632C4E for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:03:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-96-244-14-10.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net [96.244.14.10]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LaHU2-1NJJa405uA-00m1UV; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:03:44 +0100 Message-ID: <4B8DB56B.3070905@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:03:39 -0500 From: Greg Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Marlowe CC: david@lang.hm, Francisco Reyes , Pgsql performance Subject: Re: 10K vs 15k rpm for analytics References: <4B8DA5DF.8060501@2ndquadrant.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Xw83ia9tyVz9icNLxMwLAv9TRyQ0AagngOxH qvrLHxOd+GFxLBwG+3+1Tbjzxbg534u2VZ8P+/CvpE5UBPHdB7 TlV0yX9ypuiRfL/2sZG+1rtcf2TyoeL X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.072 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=AWL=-1.073, BAYES_50=0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201003/47 X-Sequence-Number: 37872 Scott Marlowe wrote: > We've had REAL good luck with the WD green and black drives. Out of > about 35 or so drives we've had two failures in the last year, one of > each black and green. I've been happy with almost all the WD Blue drives around here (have about a dozen in service for around two years), with the sole exception that the one drive I did have go bad has turned into a terrible liar. Refuses to either acknowledge it's broken and produce an RMA code, or to work. At least the Seagate and Hitachi drives are honest about being borked when once they've started producing heavy SMART errors. I have enough redundancy to deal with failure, but can't tolerate dishonesty one bit. The Blue drives are of course regular crappy consumer models though, so this is not necessarily indicative of how the Green/Black drives work. > The Seagate SATA drives have been horrific for > us, with a 30% failure rate in the last 8 or so months. We only have > something like 10 of the Seagates, so the sample's not as big as the > WDs. Note that we only use the supposed "enterprise" class drives > from each manufacturer. > > We just got a shipment of 8 1.5TB Seagates so I'll keep you informed > of the failure rate of those drives. Wouldn't be surprised to see 1 > or 2 die in the first few months tho. > Good luck with those--the consumer version of Seagate's 1.5TB drives have been perhaps the worst single drive model on the market over the last year. Something got seriously misplaced when they switched their manufacturing facility from Singapore to Thailand a few years ago, and now that the old plant is gone: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/04/seagate_closing_singapore_plant/ I don't expect them to ever recover from that. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support greg@2ndQuadrant.com www.2ndQuadrant.us