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* The good, old times
@ 2011-01-12 13:49 Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
2011-01-12 14:16 ` Re: The good, old times Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>
2011-01-18 08:43 ` Re: The good, old times Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>
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From: Mladen Gogala @ 2011-01-12 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-performance
I am running a postgres update on one of my machines:
Downloading Packages:
(1/7): postgresql90-plpython-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rp | 50 kB
00:02
(2/7): postgresql90-plperl-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 51 kB
00:03
(3/7): postgresql90-libs-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 217 kB
00:14
(4/7): postgresql90-contrib-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 451 kB
00:40
(5/7): postgresql90-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 1.4 MB
01:57
(6/7): postgresql90-devel-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 1.6 MB
02:48
(7/7): postgresql90-se (68%) 44% [===== ] 7.0 kB/s | 2.2 MB
06:33 ETA
7 kilobytes per second??? That brings back the times of the good, old
9600 USR modems and floppy disks.
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* Re: The good, old times
2011-01-12 13:49 The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
@ 2011-01-12 14:16 ` Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>
2011-01-14 06:02 ` Re: The good, old times Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
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From: Guillaume Cottenceau @ 2011-01-12 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com; +Cc: pgsql-performance
Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala 'at' vmsinfo.com> writes:
> I am running a postgres update on one of my machines:
>
> Downloading Packages:
> (1/7): postgresql90-plpython-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rp | 50 kB
> 00:02 (2/7): postgresql90-plperl-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm |
> 51 kB 00:03 (3/7):
> postgresql90-libs-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 217 kB 00:14
> (4/7): postgresql90-contrib-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 451 kB
> 00:40 (5/7): postgresql90-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm |
> 1.4 MB 01:57 (6/7):
> postgresql90-devel-9.0.2-2PGDG.rhel5.x86_64.rpm | 1.6 MB 02:48
> (7/7): postgresql90-se (68%) 44% [===== ] 7.0 kB/s | 2.2 MB
> 06:33 ETA
>
> 7 kilobytes per second??? That brings back the times of the good, old
> 9600 USR modems and floppy disks.
What's your point and in what is it related to that ML?
--
Guillaume Cottenceau
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* Re: The good, old times
2011-01-12 13:49 The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
2011-01-12 14:16 ` Re: The good, old times Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>
@ 2011-01-14 06:02 ` Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
2011-01-14 16:54 ` Re: The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
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From: Craig Ringer @ 2011-01-14 06:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>; +Cc: pgsql-performance
On 01/12/2011 10:16 PM, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> What's your point and in what is it related to that ML?
Given the package names, I suspect this is a poorly-expressed complaint
about the performance of downloads from the pgdg/psqlrpms site. If that
was the original poster's intent, they would've been better served with
a post that included some minimal details like:
- Information abut their local connectivity
- mtr --report / traceroute output
- tests from other available hosts
If that wasn't the original poster's intent, perhaps it'd be worth a
second try to explain what they were *trying* to say? Was it just a joke
- 'cos if so, it was kinda flat.
--
Craig Ringer
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* Re: The good, old times
2011-01-12 13:49 The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
2011-01-12 14:16 ` Re: The good, old times Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>
2011-01-14 06:02 ` Re: The good, old times Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
@ 2011-01-14 16:54 ` Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
2011-01-15 13:36 ` Re: The good, old times Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
2011-01-16 06:50 ` Re: The good, old times Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
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From: Mladen Gogala @ 2011-01-14 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>; +Cc: Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>; pgsql-performance
Craig Ringer wrote:
> On 01/12/2011 10:16 PM, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>
>
>> What's your point and in what is it related to that ML?
>>
>
> Given the package names, I suspect this is a poorly-expressed complaint
> about the performance of downloads from the pgdg/psqlrpms site. If that
> was the original poster's intent, they would've been better served with
> a post that included some minimal details like:
>
Yes, it was a complaint about the download speed.
> - Information abut their local connectivity
> - mtr --report / traceroute output
> - tests from other available hosts
>
As for the traceroute information, here it is:
traceroute yum.pgrpms.org
traceroute to yum.pgrpms.org (77.79.103.58), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 216.169.135.254 (216.169.135.254) 0.389 ms 0.404 ms 0.451 ms
2 host189.131.26.216.vmsinfo.com (216.26.131.189) 9.355 ms 9.357 ms
9.368 ms
3 v11.lc2.lou.peak10.net (216.26.190.10) 9.645 ms 9.645 ms 9.637 ms
4 ge-7-41.car1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net (4.53.64.41) 13.002 ms 13.002
ms 13.018 ms
5 ae-2-5.bar1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net (4.69.132.206) 13.101 ms 13.098
ms 13.087 ms
6 ae-10-10.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.136.214) 22.096 ms 21.358
ms 21.329 ms
7 ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.132.41) 27.729 ms 10.812
ms 24.132 ms
8 ae-2-2.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.132.66) 34.008 ms 33.960 ms
34.088 ms
9 ae-1-100.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.135.253) 34.152 ms 35.353
ms 37.068 ms
10 ae-4-4.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.141.17) 36.998 ms 37.248 ms
36.986 ms
11 ae-43-43.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.137.73) 107.031 ms
ae-42-42.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.137.69) 104.624 ms 107.000 ms
12 ae-2-52.edge4.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.106) 107.506 ms 106.993
ms 180.229 ms
13 (195.50.122.174) 168.849 ms 160.917 ms 161.713 ms
14 static.turktelekom.com.tr (212.156.103.42) 176.503 ms 179.012 ms
179.394 ms
15 gayrettepe-t3-1-gayrettepe-t2-1.turktelekom.com.tr (212.156.118.29)
167.867 ms 167.870 ms 167.862 ms
16 88.255.240.110 (88.255.240.110) 167.515 ms 168.172 ms 165.829 ms
17 ns1.gunduz.org (77.79.103.58) 171.574 ms !X * *
[mgogala@lpo-postgres-d01 ~]$
Are there any good mirrors? Apparently, there is something slow in the
force.
> If that wasn't the original poster's intent, perhaps it'd be worth a
> second try to explain what they were *trying* to say? Was it just a joke
> - 'cos if so, it was kinda flat.
>
> --
> Craig Ringer
>
>
--
Mladen Gogala
Sr. Oracle DBA
1500 Broadway
New York, NY 10036
(212) 329-5251
http://www.vmsinfo.com
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* Re: The good, old times
2011-01-12 13:49 The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
2011-01-12 14:16 ` Re: The good, old times Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>
2011-01-14 06:02 ` Re: The good, old times Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
2011-01-14 16:54 ` Re: The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
@ 2011-01-15 13:36 ` Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Craig Ringer @ 2011-01-15 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>; pgsql-performance
On 01/15/2011 12:54 AM, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> Yes, it was a complaint about the download speed.
>
>> - Information abut their local connectivity
>> - mtr --report / traceroute output
>> - tests from other available hosts
OK, that's one out of three. How about the other two?
> 15 gayrettepe-t3-1-gayrettepe-t2-1.turktelekom.com.tr (212.156.118.29)
> 167.867 ms 167.870 ms 167.862 ms
> 16 88.255.240.110 (88.255.240.110) 167.515 ms 168.172 ms 165.829 ms
> 17 ns1.gunduz.org (77.79.103.58) 171.574 ms !X * *
Output from a smarter traceroute client like "mtr" would be helpful. See
below for usage. "mtr" is available for most non-braindead unixes, and
is pre-installed on many modern Linux variants.
> Are there any good mirrors? Apparently, there is something slow in the
> force.
Looks fine from here, on iiNet Western Australian ADSL2+ via local
802.11g . That latency is about what I expect for traffic from Western
Australia to Turkey via Sydney and the USA. I see similar results from
other hosts. Performance when accessing the server is fine. This sample
was taken Sat Jan 15 2011, 21:35:55 +0800 time.
> [craig@ayaki ~]$ mtr --report-wide --report 77.79.103.58
> HOST: ayaki Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
> 1.|-- bob.iad 0.0% 10 1.9 1.9 1.2 3.7 0.7
> 2.|-- nexthop.wa.iinet.net.au 0.0% 10 16.7 18.6 16.7 28.8 3.7
> 3.|-- te7-2.per-qv1-bdr1.iinet.net.au 0.0% 10 17.7 17.8 17.1 18.6 0.4
> 4.|-- te3-0-0.syd-ult-core1.iinet.net.au 0.0% 10 72.9 72.1 71.4 72.9 0.6
> 5.|-- Bundle-Ether12.chw48.Sydney.telstra.net 0.0% 10 69.3 69.3 68.5 70.3 0.7
> 6.|-- Bundle-Ether6.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net 0.0% 10 73.2 73.7 73.1 76.1 0.9
> 7.|-- Bundle-Ether1.oxf-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net 0.0% 10 74.5 75.1 72.6 81.9 3.3
> 8.|-- 203.50.13.102 0.0% 10 70.1 70.5 69.4 72.0 0.8
> 9.|-- i-10-0-0.syd-core03.bi.reach.com 0.0% 10 75.9 75.8 75.0 76.5 0.5
> 10.|-- i-0-3-0-0.1wlt-core01.bx.reach.com 0.0% 10 224.6 223.2 222.5 224.6 0.6
> 11.|-- i-3-4.eqla01.bi.reach.com 0.0% 10 222.2 222.2 221.5 223.4 0.6
> 12.|-- gblx-peer.eqla01.pr.reach.com 0.0% 10 248.0 247.8 246.9 248.4 0.5
> 13.|-- 204.245.38.154 20.0% 10 638.2 520.0 465.1 638.2 71.4
> 14.|-- static.turktelekom.com.tr 10.0% 10 475.1 475.1 471.9 479.8 2.1
> 15.|-- gayrettepe-t3-1-gayrettepe-t2-1.turktelekom.com.tr 10.0% 10 476.2 475.3 472.0 476.8 1.8
> 16.|-- 88.255.240.110 10.0% 10 481.9 490.0 480.6 528.8 15.0
> 17.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
> 18.|-- ns1.gunduz.org 20.0% 10 483.5 482.3 476.7 485.0 2.7
--
Craig Ringer
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* Re: The good, old times
2011-01-12 13:49 The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
2011-01-12 14:16 ` Re: The good, old times Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>
2011-01-14 06:02 ` Re: The good, old times Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
2011-01-14 16:54 ` Re: The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
@ 2011-01-16 06:50 ` Craig Ringer <craig@postnewspapers.com.au>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Craig Ringer @ 2011-01-16 06:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>; +Cc: Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mnc.ch>; pgsql-performance
On 01/15/2011 12:54 AM, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> Craig Ringer wrote:
>> On 01/12/2011 10:16 PM, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>>
>>> What's your point and in what is it related to that ML?
>>
>> Given the package names, I suspect this is a poorly-expressed
>> complaint about the performance of downloads from the pgdg/psqlrpms
>> site. If that was the original poster's intent, they would've been
>> better served with a post that included some minimal details like:
> Yes, it was a complaint about the download speed.
OK, I'm seeing issues too now. It's transient and intermittent - sigh.
The two swear words of IT.
(3/7): postgresql90-9.0.2-2PGDG.f14.x86_64.rpm
| 865 kB 02:04
http://yum.pgrpms.org/9.0/fedora/fedora-14-x86_64/postgresql90-contrib-9.0.2-2PGDG.f14.x86_64.rpm:
[Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 6 - ""
Trying other mirror.
http://yum.pgrpms.org/9.0/fedora/fedora-14-x86_64/postgresql90-libs-9.0.2-2PGDG.f14.x86_64.rpm:
[Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 6 - ""
Trying other mirror.
A later try worked. Unfortunately I don't have a timestamp for the
failed attempt, but it was some time yesterday. mtr output and
performance of downloads are presently fine, and I don't have any data
for the problematic period.
--
Craig Ringer
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* Re: The good, old times
2011-01-12 13:49 The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
@ 2011-01-18 08:43 ` Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>
2011-01-18 08:57 ` Re: The good, old times Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
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From: Devrim GÜNDÜZ @ 2011-01-18 08:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com; +Cc: pgsql-performance
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 08:49 -0500, Mladen Gogala wrote:
<snip>
> 7 kilobytes per second??? That brings back the times of the good, old
> 9600 USR modems and floppy disks.
The machine is serving 40-50 Mbit/sec, and 90% of its traffic is for
pgrpms.org. I'm hosting the server in Turkey, and it is my own dedicated
machine -- but eventually it will be moved to a machine under
postgresql.org infrastructure soon, so it will be faster, I believe.
Sorry for the current setup -- it is the only machine that I can host
RPMs safely.
We are also *considering* to use FTP mirrors as RPM mirrors, too, but I
won't promise that now.
Please keep looking at http://yum.pgrpms.org for updates.
Regards,
--
Devrim GÜNDÜZ
PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer
PostgreSQL RPM Repository: http://yum.pgrpms.org
Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr
http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz
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* Re: The good, old times
2011-01-12 13:49 The good, old times Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
2011-01-18 08:43 ` Re: The good, old times Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>
@ 2011-01-18 08:57 ` Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
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From: Dave Page @ 2011-01-18 08:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>; +Cc: pgsql-performance
2011/1/18 Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 08:49 -0500, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> 7 kilobytes per second??? That brings back the times of the good, old
>> 9600 USR modems and floppy disks.
>
> The machine is serving 40-50 Mbit/sec, and 90% of its traffic is for
> pgrpms.org. I'm hosting the server in Turkey, and it is my own dedicated
> machine -- but eventually it will be moved to a machine under
> postgresql.org infrastructure soon, so it will be faster, I believe.
> Sorry for the current setup -- it is the only machine that I can host
> RPMs safely.
FYI, we've just had more hardware converted to the new infrastructure
platform (literally last night), so hopefully we can provision this
machine soon.
--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake
EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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