Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90A91337B8C for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:28:56 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76111-04-5 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:28:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:05:38.26608 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.catalyst.net.nz (bertrand.catalyst.net.nz [202.78.240.40]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78841337B5D for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:28:45 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC533217C for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:23:03 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at catalyst.net.nz Received: from mail.catalyst.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bertrand.catalyst.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QI+wpd+EXxFq for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:23:03 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (122-60-64-230.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [122.60.64.230]) (Authenticated sender: mark.kirkwood) by mail.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0FEC932160 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:23:02 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <4D472836.9000108@catalyst.net.nz> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:23:02 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Bloat issue on 8.3; autovac ignores HOT new pages? References: <4D3E34C8.9040209@agliodbs.com> <4D3F163E.100@agliodbs.com> <4D3F40BD.4040504@catalyst.net.nz> <4D46FF15.7090606@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <4D46FF15.7090606@agliodbs.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090201060909040008040804" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.909 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201101/348 X-Sequence-Number: 42135 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090201060909040008040804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 01/02/11 07:27, Josh Berkus wrote: > Robert, Mark, > > I have not been able to reproduce this issue in a clean test on 9.0. As > a result, I now think that it was related to the FSM being too small on > the user's 8.3 instance, and will consider it resolved. > Right - it might be interesting to see if you can reproduce on 8.4. I would hazard a guess that you will not (on disk FSM + visibility map vacuum improvements seem to make this whole area way better). Cheers Mark --------------090201060909040008040804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 01/02/11 07:27, Josh Berkus wrote:
Robert, Mark,

I have not been able to reproduce this issue in a clean test on 9.0.  As
a result, I now think that it was related to the FSM being too small on
the user's 8.3 instance, and will consider it resolved.


Right - it might be interesting to see if you can reproduce on 8.4. I would hazard a guess that you will not (on disk FSM + visibility map vacuum improvements seem to make this whole area way better).

Cheers

Mark
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