Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FCDB5DBE6 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:12:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40893-05 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:11:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41CAB5DBD8 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:11:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (mail.highperformancepostgresql.com [71.179.240.8]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MJ1gb-1QbWeg2WVN-002TrQ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:11:56 +0200 Message-ID: <4E00B4B9.50006@2ndQuadrant.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:11:53 -0400 From: Greg Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110505 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Weimer CC: Yeb Havinga , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Contemplating SSD Hardware RAID References: <4E0015F2.9060504@drivefaster.net> <4E003B44.9090005@2ndQuadrant.com> <4E004D96.7010308@gmail.com> <4E004E74.5020209@gmail.com> <82d3i777ow.fsf@mid.bfk.de> In-Reply-To: <82d3i777ow.fsf@mid.bfk.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:zR5RlsyiXsC2vu51LHYPK+R3lxUPwYLO3dOh2kSbbb0 mT8VQs93Gdbb+iBoJAO8STgQmxxz9DvKchl6DnB0vGiXFx4gU3 9eDsxHMC7nGvvWyhuKhViaITczJNEtMPUr9/c/0uKxTI1Foxb4 sbOM6jglf3sMt0dkMKzQ6MS9NH6iyPcuGIMQGMOwzSyiFl/LJu f5v4JTWWCyGF/FO5fPoKyvfiD7nSJ2mQgVIjYidf/o= X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201106/198 X-Sequence-Number: 44131 On 06/21/2011 07:19 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > 3ware controllers offer SMART pass-through, and smartctl supports it. > I'm sure there's something similar for Areca controllers. > Depends on the model, drives, and how you access the management interface. For both manufacturers actually. Check out http://notemagnet.blogspot.com/2008/08/linux-disk-failures-areca-is-not-so.html for example. There I talk about problems with a specific Areca controller, as well as noting in a comment at the end that there are limitations with 3ware supporting not supporting SMART reports against SAS drives. Part of the whole evaluation chain for new server hardware, especially for SSD, needs to be a look at what SMART data you can get. Yeb, I'd be curious to get more details about what you've been seeing here if you can share it. You have more different models around than I have access to, especially the OCZ ones which I can't get my clients to consider still. (Their concerns about compatibility and support from a relatively small vendor are not completely unfounded) -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.us "PostgreSQL 9.0 High Performance": http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/books