Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BCAB5DC1F for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:42:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04829-01 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 14:42:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0-rc2 Received: from mmmail1.mcr.colo.comodoca.net (mdfw.comodoca.net [91.209.196.68]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7840B5DC23 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:42:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail 20479 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2011 14:42:31 -0000 Received: from ian.bd.office.comodo.net (HELO ian.brad.office.comodo.net) (192.168.0.201) by mail.colo.comodoca.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 29 Oct 2011 14:42:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23514 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Oct 2011 14:42:30 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO [192.168.199.58]) (192.168.199.58) (smtp-auth username robinst, mechanism plain) by ian.brad.office.comodo.net (qpsmtpd/0.40) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:42:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4EAC10D4.1080300@comodo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:12:28 +0530 From: Robins Tharakan Organization: Comodo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Bad plan by Planner (Already resolved?) References: <4E9D2ECA0200002500042131@gw.wicourts.gov> <4EA6952E.90209@comodo.com> <9507.1319659042@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <9507.1319659042@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010800050704070008010208" X-Comodo-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on ian.brad.office.comodo.net X-Comodo-ClamAV-Virus-Program: ClamAV 0.95.3/13845/Mon Oct 24 22:01:59 2011 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201110/270 X-Sequence-Number: 45492 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010800050704070008010208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Tom! Regret the delay in reply, but two of the three guesses were spot-on and = resolved the doubt. 8.4.9 does take care of this case very well. On 10/27/2011 01:27 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > I suspect that you're just fooling yourself here, and the "optimized" > query is no such thing. :) I actually meant 'faster' query, but well... > 1. The tables are horrendously bloated on the first database, so that > many more pages have to be touched to get the same number of tuples. > This would likely indicate an improper autovacuum configuration. I believe you've nailed it pretty accurately. The tables are=20 horrendously bloated and I may need to tune AutoVacuum to be much more=20 aggressive than it is. I did see that HashAggregate makes only a minor=20 difference, but what didn't strike is that the slowness could be bloat. > 2. You failed to account for caching effects, ie the first example > is being run "cold" and has to actually read everything from disk, > whereas the second example has everything it needs already in RAM. > In that case the speed differential is quite illusory. On hindsight, this was a miss. Should have warmed the caches before=20 posting. Re-running this query multiple times, brought out the result in = ~100ms. > BTW, how come is it that "SELECT large_table_b.field_b FROM > large_table_b WHERE field_a =3D 2673056" produces no duplicate field_b > values? Is that just luck? Is there a unique constraint on the table > that implies it will happen? Its just luck. Sometimes the corresponding values genuinely don't exist=20 in the other table, so that's ok. -- Robins Tharakan --------------ms010800050704070008010208 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIVdjCC BIowggNyoAMCAQICECf06hH0eobEbp27bqkXBwcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwbzELMAkGA1UE BhMCU0UxFDASBgNVBAoTC0FkZFRydXN0IEFCMSYwJAYDVQQLEx1BZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5h bCBUVFAgTmV0d29yazEiMCAGA1UEAxMZQWRkVHJ1c3QgRXh0ZXJuYWwgQ0EgUm9vdDAeFw0w NTA2MDcwODA5MTBaFw0yMDA1MzAxMDQ4MzhaMIGuMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzELMAkGA1UECBMC VVQxFzAVBgNVBAcTDlNhbHQgTGFrZSBDaXR5MR4wHAYDVQQKExVUaGUgVVNFUlRSVVNUIE5l dHdvcmsxITAfBgNVBAsTGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudXNlcnRydXN0LmNvbTE2MDQGA1UEAxMtVVRO LVVTRVJGaXJzdC1DbGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5kIEVtYWlsMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG 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